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A BIPARTISAN SAMPLING of the world’s greatest perpetrators and enablers of political violence has rushed to condemn political violence following the shooting attempt on former President Donald Trump on Saturday.

“The idea that there’s political violence … in America like this, is just unheard of, it’s just not appropriate,” said President Joe Biden, the backer of Israel’s genocidal war against Palestine, with a death toll that researchers believe could reach 186,000 Palestinians. Biden’s narrower point was correct, though: Deadly attacks on the American ruling class are vanishingly rare these days. Political violence that is not “like this” — the political violence of organized abandonment, poverty, militarized borders, police brutality, incarceration, and deportation — is commonplace.

And condemn it, most everyone in the Democratic political establishment has: “Political violence is absolutely unacceptable,” wrote Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., on X. “There is absolutely no place for political violence in our democracy,” tweeted former President Barack Obama, who oversaw war efforts and military strikes against Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Somalia, and Pakistan with massive civilian death tolls; Obama added that we should “use this moment to recommit ourselves to civility and respect in our politics.” “There is no place for political violence, including the horrific incident we just witnessed in Pennsylvania,” wrote Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y.

The chorus of condemnation was predictable and not in itself a problem: There’s nothing wrong with desiring a world without stochastic assassination attempts, even against political opponents. But when you have Israel’s minister of foreign affairs, Israel Katz of the fascistic ruling Likud Party, tweeting, “Violence can never ever be part of politics,” the very concept of “political violence” is evacuated of meaning.

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[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 113 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

The 'monopoly of violence' is a useful lens to use around things like this. Despite being less accountable than normal citizens for it, the state has monopolized violence to be acceptable for them to commit, but unacceptable for others.

The state will even often times will use violence to arrest or put down non violent situations or people as well. Like the student protestors, George Floyd and any number of other police killings we've seen.

[–] audiomodder@lemmy.blahaj.zone 57 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It’s funny to see how Republicans have been “we don’t condone violence” and “this is unacceptable”.

Go look at their reactions to the attack on Paul Pelosi. You know, the celebrations, the “Democrats had it coming”. Funny how things change

[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

There were Republicans decrying the attack on Pelosi. Of course there were people saying stuff like “Democrats had it coming,” just like we have people saying “How could you miss” about this.

[–] UserNameIsRequired@lemy.lol 43 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Only politicians are against violence against politicians

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And regardless of what side of the aisle, they will all stand together on this. Why? Maybe because any one of them could be next.

We never had the guillotines in this country. So the ruling class never learned that part the hard way.

[–] UserNameIsRequired@lemy.lol 4 points 3 months ago

Exactly. Politicians serve the people. Or else.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's unheard of

So you've never picked up a history book, I see. There's a few obscure guys who would disagree with your assertion. I'll list them off, but I doubt you'll recognize any of the names.

  • Andrew Jackson
  • Abraham Lincoln
  • James Garfield
  • Theodore Roosevelt
  • William McKinley
  • John F. Kennedy
  • Ronald Reagan
  • William Taft
  • Herbert Hoover
  • Franklin D. Roosevelt
  • Harry Truman
  • Gerald Ford
  • George W. Bush
  • Barack Obama

Don't feel bad, I wouldn't expect you to have heard of any of them.

[–] HurlingDurling@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

You forgot a couple of senators including JFKs younger brother. But yeah, super obscure names, Im suprised someone else online knows about these.

[–] Tier1BuildABear@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

The only kind they ALL oppose, apparently, is against Republicans. When it's against Democrats the Republicans cheer.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Pretty much the entirety of mainstream political speech boils down to the Elites being special and what is good and proper for them is not the same as what is good and proper for the rest, both in terms of what they can do and what can be done to them.

And this is in all political regimes, Democracy as much as Autocracy.

So the only surprise there can be in this comes from generally in Democracy the "we are different from you" kind of speech tends to be far more subtle and indirect (say, justifying politicians exclusion from certain surveillance laws due to their "responsibilities" or having law apply differently to "businesses" which is just a way to act towards the wealth of the Owner class differently than towards that of the Worker class), so some people hadn't yet spotted how throroughly normalized and generally applied the double standard of the Elites is.

For anybody trying to look at the forest rather than getting fixated on individual trees, this stuff is immediately obvious as absolutely within the general pattern of behaviour of these people (it's the mainstream politicians that do NOT think like this that are the exceptional ones).

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

The party that wants to execute pedophiles and rapists is shocked when Donald Trump, a known rapist of a 12 year old girl, almost gets shot

[–] SeattleRain@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Finally a good take on this.