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Which should have been the expected response. Extremism can only ever create more extremism on the other end of the spectrum.
The only thing those street gluers achieve is the exact opposite of their goal.
Murdering the civilization by knowingly and willingly create conditions for climate change: normal behaviour, good, commendable.
Public non-violent protests against that: extremism, bad, scary.
I love civil disobedience. Go break shit.
The "necessity defense" stuff: I tried all the other avenues and nothing happened, I had to turn off this oil pipeline.
"It's people doing things and caring that annoys me"
Except they aren't actually doing anything. They should go shut down a factory or something.
Have you been living under a rock?? They've been doing that for ages and keep getting arrested
Yes, I have been living under a rock. It is nice and cozy down here.
Diversity of tactics. There's no point in pissing on other people's praxis when you have the capacity and space to organise your own.
Want harder action? Find a pipeline. Blockade a port.
Want to educate people about actions and how to get involved? Organise a street march and equip people with rhetoric to help turn the tide against fossil fuel astroturfing.
Just do something.
They are - which means they're ahead.
If sticking heads in sand was an Olympic sport, climate change deniers would consistently take home 100 kg antimatter trophies.
If you believe there is anything you can do about this. Then you are naive. There are almost eight billion of us. We have an immense industry. People not worrying about things like that is normal. Because they are to busy feeding there children. Trying to live a little. Also why do people think that you can stop climate change. The dice has been rolled. Alea iacta est.
It has become fashionable for some to take a defeatist condescending stance like this when it comes to issues that affect everyone. If you think it makes you look smart, it doesn't. These are pressing issues and people have to take action. If you don't want to, go ahead and disappear. But don't talk down to those who are and those who are calling for it.
It's my opinion. Has nothing to do with talking down. I genuinly don't believe there is anything we can do.
Stop with the black pill nonsense. There's plenty we can do. Get active, get amongst it, break unjust laws.
Lay down and rot somewhere else.
No need to be offensive
Dude. The world is being killed and the people killing it have names and addresses. This is not a untouchable force of nature causing our homes to flood and burn while the ecosystems that allow us to farm collapse.
You have agency. Get angry, channel it and get active.
Yes they have names and adresses. They are - WE
Yes but also wise up - we're not the same as Exxon Mobil or Rio Tinto. We individually need to make our changes, absolutely - but they won't unless we force them to do so and they dwarf us in output to an inhuman degree.
Simply - we need to stop their machines in a very literal sense. They've already shown that dialogue and scientific reasoning is an utterly useless vehicle for change in the face of their organisations - so we need to start speaking in languages they understand. Remove their ability to function. Direct action is the answer to the question.
No need to be offended
They've done actual studies that show these protests are counter productive, blindly supporting anything just because they claim to support your cause is incredibly dumb.
In this world there are a huge amount of people who really, really, really like attention and will insert themselves into anything to try and get it, they'll use any excuse to 'boost their profile' especially if they can pretend to be some form of hero along the way.
The idiot who got shot in the capitol and the idiot who threw soup on the painting are the same unthinking attention seeking type of idiot, the right pretend they're breaking into the capitol to save children, the left try to ruin people's day in the name of climate change - then on their respective sides a whole host of idiots cheer and say 'I'm supporting these brave activists so I'm not part of the problem, I can continue to live my life exactly as I chose - safe in the knowledge that cheering on these idiots is enough'