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[–] ChojinDSL@discuss.tchncs.de 41 points 4 months ago (2 children)

"don't cross illegally"... If only the first settlers to America would have followed that rule.

[–] worldwidewave@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The Trump admin isn’t planning to deport the few dozen Swedes overstaying their visas. I actually don’t think they wouldn’t mind boats of white pilgrims landing here today.

[–] card797@champserver.net 3 points 4 months ago

They didn't have a flag to stop us.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Would be nice if every time you heard about a conservative saying horrid, inhumane shit, you could just click a button to watch a video montage of all of their collective head injuries throughout life, as well as all the times that they reached their arms out to hug a parent and the parent didn't reasons or called them weak for trying.

I guess also all the times the conservatives with penises masturbated to pictures of other men in fishing magazines while crying in a literal closest or the times they were caught by mother dressing in her clothes and were beaten with a wooden spoon, burnt with her lady cigarette and told, "You're sick don (or Ted, or Lindsay, or Mitch, or Dennis, or Rush or whatever young upturned pig nose conservative name they had) we'll never tell your daddy about this sickness".

Now, these would be VERY long videos, but they would help shed some light on the condition in each case.

[–] troglodytis@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Obama and Biden deported more people in their first terms than were deported during Trump's administration.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 27 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] troglodytis@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago

It's often a fact "both sides" don't enjoy, but it's still a fact.

Trump was super ineffective in implementing his horrible rhetoric. It took Obama a term, and some judgements and a settlement against what his administration was up to, to start treating people more like people. And Biden has been "business as usual" as he's dealt with the influx of humans after COVID restrictions were lifted.

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

So two presidents in 8 years did more than one president did in 4 years ? That is the headline here ?

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

No? Why act so dishonestly and try to frame it as something it’s not?

Under Trump, from fiscal year 2017 to fiscal year 2020, the Department of Homeland Security recorded 2 million deportations

And

During Obama’s first term, fiscal year 2009 to fiscal year 2012, there were 3.2 million deportations

Americans really need to learn they have a right wing and a far right wing party.

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)
  1. The definition of deportation changed under Obama, making him have 2.5 million in his 8 years compared to Bush’s 2 million, under the old definition it would be a lot lower.

  2. Trump deported 1.8 million people total, Biden deported 2million. However, 2.3 million people were released into the country after being taken into custody, while less than 300k were under Trump.

  3. Biden’s administration has seen double the border hoppers as Trump’s administration did. Despite this he let Trump era border policies expire, making it harder to deport people. He also placed a hold on ICE arrests, deportations, and raids.

[–] troglodytis@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

"Trump era border policies" that stopped people from seeking asylum inside the USA were based off emergency response to COVID-19. As that shifted from pandemic to endemic, the USA stopped its emergency response. So yeah, those asylum restrictions also stopped. Duh. Or do you think the federal government should continue using emergency powers to address COVID?

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Besides Covid policies, he also restricted ICE and ended other Trump era policies put in place before covid. The big one used to turn the most people away was due to the pandemic and rightfully ended.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

He also enacted tougher border restrictions and basically copied Trumps strategy which so many Dems thought was a genius move because now Trump couldn’t criticise him on it as if that was more important than migrants dying.

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca -2 points 4 months ago

I think the main issue is the total number, even though more are being deported it is not keeping up with illegal crossings which have increased dramatically. I think the only real way to fix it is force cities that arrest illegal migrants to hand them over to ICE and expedite deportations.

[–] card797@champserver.net 2 points 4 months ago

As long as they are working for business owners they're cool. Otherwise, deport. Republican way.