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Enough Musk Spam

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[–] Zeppo@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What a disingenuous statement. By not agreeing to do it he is complicit in major acts of war, i.e. whatever attacks the Russians do with their fleet. What a tosser.

[–] UniDestroyer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

War is peace.

[–] mcgravier@kbin.social -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Starlink was specifically agreed for civilian use only. It's the Ukraine who tries to breach that agreement, SpaceX simply doesn't want to be accused of exporting weapons

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Saying ‘the Ukraine’ gives away your loyalties, tovarisch.

[–] Zeppo@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah, if a much larger country was invading, shelling apartment buildings, mining the fuck out of farmland and murdering thousands of people, I'd probably breach a ToS.

Also, that sounds a bit absurd considering he just got the US DoD to pay for Ukraine's starlink service.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also that larger country is firing missiles from ships in the Black Sea, and many of those missiles do kill civilians.

Also using those ships to disrupt grain shipments which is causing issues with the food supply world wide.

[–] Zeppo@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Ah, but Elron saved us ALL from nuclear war. A typical grandiose and pretentious statement for him, I suppose.

[–] letsgocrazy@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

This whole thing has made me so angry, I'm so upset about this.

Musk doesn't have the power to to stop Russian ships attacking cargo vessels in the black sea so he shouldn't be stopping Ukrainians from fighting back - in their own territory.

Musk is partially to blame for the lack of food coming from Ukraine. He's responsiveness got higher food prices.

This is an absolute act of evil stupidity.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The way he phrases it is as if Ukraine asked him to enable them to make the attack. They asked him to switch it back on, because he had explicitly disabled service in the area, after giving the devices to Ukraine in the first place.

[–] Chariotwheel@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So they can Netflix and chill during the Russian invasion. That's definitely what these devices were for. No way Elon could've known there was any military usage in a country desperately fighting for it's existance.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

He's said as much... That's the really fucked up part. He's behind

“Starlink was not meant to be involved in wars. It was so people can watch Netflix and chill and get online for school and do good peaceful things, not drone strikes”. -Elon Musk

Like... 'don't worry about the war crimes, just Netflix and chill, Ukraine.'

Fuck Elon Musk.

Uber wealthy private citizens able to control the path of wars in countries they don’t live in.

That’s some dystopian shit.

[–] digeridoo@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The crazy thing is that the Air Force, Army, and just about every other branch of the military has contracted or is looking to contract with Space X to get Starlink. He doesn't have a problem with providing the US with that capability because we're not in direct conflict, but will deny it to ukraine when it's in Russia's favor.

After this I, I would totally re-look those agreements.

Government contracts for Starlink services

[–] Usanam@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I think space X shouldn't be involved with the war. It is not a military company. I don't know, just my opinion.

[–] blady_blah@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I'm pro-Ukraine, but I can understand someone not wanting their technology to be used for warfare. Saying "here's Starlink, it'll keep you connected even if Russia bombs your lines of communication" is different than saying "here's a technology you can strap to a bomb and guide it to it's destination."

Musk is an egotistical asshole, but there's validity for a company not wanting their technology, their communication pathways, to be used for killing people.

[–] thecrotch@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If I had a product, I wouldn't want it being used for war either. Know how id handle it? By not accepting millions from the Pentagon in the first place

[–] deaf_fish@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So if the country you lived it was being invaded, would you turn off the Internet in your country to prevent acts of war in the form of defensive operations?

[–] Pengui@feddit.nl -3 points 1 year ago
[–] Decompose@programming.dev -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Everyone here acting as if Elon did something wrong deserves to live in war to learn why it's a bad thing, you blood-thirsty dumbasses.

[–] nailbar@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Ukrainians definately think Elon did wrong. And they live in war. And you're saying they deserve it.

[–] Decompose@programming.dev -1 points 1 year ago

I don't recall when the American people agreed to have war. I also don't remember when congress agreed to have war.

America isn't in war with Russia. So, spare me the bullshit. What Elon did stopped an escalation that could've led to a nuclear war. And yes, you deserve what I said. You deserve to feel hunger, and see your family and children die, so that you learn how bad war is and how sometimes you have to learn how to be a real man and shove your ego up your ass to save lives.

[–] einfach_orangensaft@feddit.de -1 points 1 year ago

Theatrics. The DoD can overwrite musk if they want, they have full control over starlink via spaceforce. In fact the DoD funded the whole thing, musk was just used as a front so people dont get pissed the USA installed the biggest satelite contelation in orbit that has huge military applications.

Its a sure bet starlink is still servicing ukrainian drone ships. The DoD just told musk to spread some disinformation so russia cant claim in public that ukraine is using american satelites.

Source: trust me bro

[–] MrBusinessMan@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago

This is the sort of good judgment that made him the richest man in the world. Lots of haters here upset that he didn’t help start WW3!

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago

It's well past time to nationalize Starlink.

[–] mcgravier@kbin.social -3 points 1 year ago

Does anyone have a reliable source relating to Musk talks with Putin? I'm asking seriously, I can't track it down...