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[–] Thekingoflorda@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

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[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Will try to remember to check the rules of each community before posting. Added a link to a news article. Thanks for the heads-up.

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[–] Surreal@programming.dev 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Elon Musk is afraid of Putin's revenge. Crucial infrastructure like Starlink should be handled by the government, not a corp. Otherwise the corp will prioritize shareholders and profit rather than human's life

[–] Misconduct@startrek.website 1 points 2 years ago

I'm so tired of these literal cartoon villains having power I stg

[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Nationalize his assets and deport him to South Africa

[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

South Africa is where his families money is from and he can still have power there.

Guantanamo Bay is where he belongs

[–] holmesandhoatzin@slrpnk.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Send him to that big garbage island in the Pacific.

[–] CouldWellGo4aCuppa@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] prashanthvsdvn@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

When was UK in Pacific?

[–] CryptoRoberto@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Tesla was built off the backs of the US taxpayer. It's so crazy to me that he's too dumb to realize being a toxic right winger is bad for business. He gets tax payer funds from the Democrats, his customers definitely skew left of center. I always thought Tesla was insanely over valued, but with all his bullshit and the major car manufacturers giving them competition now Tesla is bound to collapse...

[–] SolarPunker@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 months ago

Being a "toxic right winger" is actually the requirement to do business in capitalism.

[–] downpunxx@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (5 children)

The US has spent at least 80 Billion dollars arming and supporting Ukraine in it's defense against Russian genocidal aggression and Western expansion that puts the entire NATO block in jepordy, why is Elon fucking Musk allowed to put his thumb on the scale in favor of the enemy? Why isn't anyone in the Biden administration tearing him a new asshole form stem to stern, why isn't anyone in the Biden administration publicly discussing nationalizing Starlink. We're literally throwing money into conflict (for absolutely necessary, vital, and justified reason) that one man is deciding the outcomes of, and the United States government is just ..... what .... ok with this?

[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

One thing that seems to be the case with Biden's administration - there's a lot going on behinds the scenes that we're not aware of.

You're right, there should be some life changing repercussions for Musk. Hopefully we'll find out those are in the works.

[–] AlwaysNowNeverNotMe@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

That would require holding a billionaire accountable in some way though?

[–] chemicalprophet@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm just some dumbfuck but,..money?

[–] Poggervania@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

Pretty much - Muskrat most likely privately funds (read: bribes) enough government officials to either stand by and do nothing or actively interfere.

This advisor should also consider the lack of response from the US itself as part of the problem - Muskrat is helping out an enemy, but uhhh… what the fuck did the government do to curb that shit from happening in the first place?

[–] fishos@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

Why with all those billions are we relying on a private company for military communications? I'm not excusing Musk AT ALL, but communications are insanely important in a conflict. Why are these governments spending all of this money and not just doing it themselves? If the military ordered supplies from Walmart and Walmart didn't deliver them, wouldn't we be asking the government instead "why the hell did you do that?"

[–] cloud@lazysoci.al -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It's not so hard to understand why, have fun doing simple math...

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Another "liberal" who hates democracy...

Why isn't Biden just confiscating a private company??? Are you serious?

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Billionaires are not democratic.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And what do you think calling for the state to take control of a business that disagrees with it's policy goals is?

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nationalization? That's not a new concept.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So you'd be okay with trump nationalizing a company because it disagrees with his foreign policy?

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I wouldn't be okay with trump in the first place, so I don't see how that's much of a gotcha.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago

Of course your don't. You're a partisan.

[–] tootbrute@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago

Exactly why taiwan is looking to build their own system. You can't entrust anything to musk with his deep saudi-china links

Taiwan, meanwhile, is hesitant to use Starlink’s services for fear of Musk’s close ties with China. A dominant player in the global chips market, Taiwan feels exposed to the constant threat of Chinese invasion. Using Starlink might be one way to bolster its national and data security—especially when Taiwan suspects China of cutting its submarine internet cables. But for Taiwan to rely too heavily on Starlink might prove unwise, in the event that China pressures Musk to limit network access abruptly, as he has done in certain situations in Ukraine.

https://qz.com/china-taiwan-starlink-elon-musk-satellite-tensions-1850691740

[–] Happywop@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We have entered the out loud part of billionaire gangsters literally taking over the world or trying. Elon dreams of an authoritarian world where he can house his workers a la Foxconn. Honestly someone is going to star popping these malignant ghouls soon and Elon is a prime candidate. One special ops team and a MANDAP and no more X.

We now live in an overt oligarchy heading toward fascism. Although it's always been an oligarchy behind the scenes IMO, you are right, they are now saying the quiet part out loud. They are also taking actions that were once done behind closed doors right out into the open.

David Frum: "If conservatives become convinced that they can not win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy."

We are watching that happen. An oligarchy run by a fascist would be just fine with conservatives as they're showing us every single day.

Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition… There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”

Laws clearly do not bind Trump, Thomas, Roberts, Alito or Musk and they're done pretending that they do. They don't even bother playing lip service to the idea that we have a government of laws, not of men.

I once had a Mexican friend tell me "I weep for my country" when talking about Mexican crime. Watching the Republican's accelerating mockery of our laws, institutions and government I'm sorry to say that as an American I weep for mine.

[–] Cyder@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Musk is creeping into super-villan territory.

[–] Happywop@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Ukraine special ops downs Elmos jet....

[–] Yepthatsme@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Arrest Musk, drop him off baked on the front lines. Rinse and repeat with other billionaires.

[–] papalonian@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why are we getting him high first?

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

So the Ukrainians don't have to lead him as far.

[–] NutWrench@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Starlink is a great system. The problem is its idiot owner, Musk, who is more worried how the use of Starlink in the Ukraine is going to affect his company stock. You're in the big leagues now, Elmo. You cant "sort of" commit to a war unless you're a rich Saudi dilettante, who wants to try his hand at international shiat-stirring.

[–] jarfil@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The use of Starlink was restricted by US Government sanctions: no use on Russian territory or assets.

Tough luck, that also means no using it for attacking on Russian territory or assets.

Edit: Here's a link with sources and dates.

[–] carpelbridgesyndrome@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Crimea is Ukraine. Also that's not how sanctions work at all

[–] jarfil@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Crimea is Ukraine

Crimea is Stalin's "present" to the Republic of Ukraine after the ethnic cleansing and genocide of Crimean Tatars by the USSR.

Do you support that genocide?

that's not how sanctions work at all

These sanctions work exactly like that: no service, means no service, not "no service, but sometimes some".

If you want an exception, you ask the US Government, not some rando running the service.