There is nothing in this that reflects the title. It's nothing more than passive propaganda. They are relying on people to just read the title and not open the link.

What is actually said is:

And let me just end by saying that this reflects the political reality that nations are sovereign. Nations decide themselves, and Ukraine has of course the right to decide its own path. And it's up to Ukraine and NATO Allies to decide when Ukraine becomes a member. Russia cannot veto membership for any sovereign independent state in Europe.

[–] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Actually he also said (in the link):

“The background was that President Putin declared in the autumn of 2021, and actually sent a draft treaty that they wanted NATO to sign, to promise no more NATO enlargement. That was what he sent us. And was a pre-condition for not invade Ukraine. Of course we didn’t sign that.”

[–] Umbrias@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is so hilariously weak who did you think you would convince with this quote blatantly showing your title to be a lie. Lmao.

[–] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not a lie, he literally said it in his speech.

[–] Umbrias@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Lol the absolute delusion of tankies. You'd be funny if you weren't advocating for imperialistic cultural genocide.

[–] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's literally what you're advocating for.

[–] Umbrias@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Lmao

[–] sxan@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago

"If you don't promise to stop making new friends, I'm going to kill another one."

[–] nicman24@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago

what about 2014

[–] mephiska@artemis.camp 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tankies everywhere in this post lol

[–] Actaeon@artemis.camp -1 points 1 year ago

It’s because this WorldNews community is hosted on lemmy.ml. There’s better alternatives on @lemmy.world and @kbin.social

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The closest thing to the lie you wrote is the part where it says Putin demanded that NATO stop recognizing Ukraine as a sovereign country. So he's invading Ukraine because NATO didn't allow him to annex Ukraine Anschluss and annexation of Sudetenland style. And if you think that would help, remember that appeasing Putin over Georgia and, effectively, over Crimea and Donbass didn't do shit to stop his aggression.

Besides the document implies what was already obvious, which is that, before the war, Ukraine wasn't even going to be allowed into NATO any time soon, NATO countries just couldn't sign an agreement that would limit Ukraine's sovereignty.

[–] Serdan@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What he's saying is that Putin doesn't get to dictate which alliances sovereign nations can join.

[–] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"The background was that President Putin declared in the autumn of 2021, and actually sent a draft treaty that they wanted NATO to sign, to promise no more NATO enlargement. That was what he sent us. And was a pre-condition for not invade Ukraine. Of course we didn't sign that."

[–] BitPirate@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Don't allow others to join your defense pact or we'll demonstrate why it's necessary in the first place."

Perfectly sane logic. Nothing strange.

[–] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Cuba had the same thing happen to them in the 60's.

[–] Skua@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh good you already understand why it's Bad Actually™ then

[–] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You mean that it's bad that the USA threatened to nuke Russia when Russia was putting missiles in Cuba, or when Russia invaded Ukraine when USA said they would put missiles in Ukraine? Was it bad the USA threatened nuclear war because Cuba wanted to defend itself from a belligerent neighbour? Russia backed off, should the US back off from Ukraine? Or "this is different".

[–] cnnrduncan@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Was it bad that Russia threatened nuclear way because Ukraine wanted to defend itself from a belligerent neighbour?

The USA doing bad things in the past doesn't make it alright for Russia to do the same bad shit.

[–] Skua@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago

It isn't a team sport. We aren't children. Both can, in fact, be wrong, and neither justifies the other.

[–] cnnrduncan@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So you're alright with the way the US treats Cuba then? The USA did make it very clear that they wouldn't tolerate Warsaw Pact expansionism near their borders, and Cuba could have just surrendered after the Bay of Pigs invasion to avoid all the negative consequences that have resulted from Cuba's decision to oppose the freedom loving USA.

[–] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Russia has made it very clear they don't want NATO expansionism near its borders.

[–] cnnrduncan@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah and the US made it very clear that they didn't want USSR expansionism near their borders. Doesn't make what the US has done to Cuba alright, just like it doesn't make what Russia has done in Ukraine alright.

[–] pindapinda@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Literally nowhere in these remarks does it say "expansion" or "expansionism"...

[–] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago

Ahh yes you have to think a bit critically.