To whoever wrote the headline: How can it possibly help?
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It "helps" the NIMBYs who want them off the streets by any means necessary.
"My heart goes out to the homeless, but I don't want to see or be reminded of them"
--Those same NIMBY's, probably
The irony here is that housing-first strategies are the best way to do that. They’re also the one these asshats are against.
The best way that isn't cruel. But since homeless people supposedly deserve it... you have to punish the poor for being poor after all. Sure, they can't afford the bootstraps, but that's not excuse not to pull themselves up by them.
Except the means of helping to get them homes of course.
These sorts of "concerned citizens" are happy to give the homeless a prison cell for a home.
they'll happily spend $150,000 a head to make sure those homeless people are housed in a prison instead of near their community
Not saying I agree with this position, but I’ll pass along the argument that CA’s governor makes.
CA has a lot of empty shelter beds, and they couldn’t clear some camps unless they had enough beds to house everyone. It was all or nothing. They couldn’t say “we have enough beds in the county for half of the encampments, so we’ll only clear the half that have the largest public health and safety problems.”
Basically, CA only wants to jail people if a bed exists and isn’t being used. Problem is, some states / counties will look at this broad ruling and will just people in jail, bed or not.
Also, this ruling doesn’t account for shelter quality. Sometimes the street is actually safer than a shelter, and arresting a person for prioritizing safety is pretty shitty.
I know it sounds rational but that's not a good faith argument from the governor. What he wants is to be able to force people into subpar living conditions instead of making shelters and temporary housing actually work.
It's just another way for them to use the police while telling everyone they're really actually helping.
Doesn't California notoriously have an extreme shortage of shelter beds? I've heard it compared unfavorable to New York this way plenty of times.
Overall the state has a major shortage of beds. Cities and counties across California reported in 2023 a little more than 71,131 beds in either an emergency shelter or transitional housing. The state would need more than twice that number to accommodate everyone.
http://calmatters.org/explainers/californias-homelessness-crisis-explained/
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Was it written by a human with no sense or by an AI (also with no sense)? 🤔
It's the BBC, so I'm giving the benefit of doubt that it was just written by a really out of touch human. The actual article is pretty good coverage and highlights why it's such a terrible decision.
The only thing in the article that even slightly implies "help" is this line:
Jailing the homeless? ‘At least I’ll have a bed’
So, headline seems to be intentionally click/rage bait even though the article itself is pretty sound.
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While we’re at it, maybe we can solve the healthcare crisis by punishing sickness!
Don't we already, with what amount to astronomical fines for getting sick?
I think the 2025 people reading this just got an idea. You can’t be sick if it’s illegal. Thanks for giving them ideas.
Cancer diagnosis? Believe it or not, straight to jail.
We already punish mental illness. Might as well.
Jesus. How could locking up homeless folk make things better? The headline is bad, and the article is not informative.
They have to fill the prisons since a bunch are getting out from old cannabis charges.
It puts more people in prison, making private prisons' income better. This kind of shit is never about helping anyone but the lobbyists.
And then prisons rent out these people's labor to corpos for slave wages. It's a win-win.
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Storming the Bastille was done (in part) to free prisoners who were being indefinitely held for reasons related to being poor. I'm mostly just bringing that up because history has lots of interesting themes we should all be considering in our decision making during daily life.
Hurt. No question.
You aren't thinking this through and all the wonderful possibilities.
Just imagine if we let private prisons "loan" out low risk prisoners to local businesses.
BAM! Now you get to spread the cost savings of prison labor to the wider economy.
And that's just me spitballing. I got so many good ideas on what we can do with our newly enslaved poors, err... I mean criminally homeless deviants.
Now now. It’s all in how you frame it. If the crisis was homeowners having to see people living in poverty and on the edge of society, this is a big win.
The fuck is wrong with America?
Late-stage capitalist oligarchic shithole.
$$$,$$$,$$$,$$$,$$$
It will hurt. Terrible idea.
Aurora Colorado used Cannabis profits to build a sweet homeless shelter a few years back. Where does all this revenue go in other states?
Same place where tobacco taxes, opioid settlements, lottery money and any other money-raising idea states come up with go- anywhere but where they're supposed to.
Politicians pockets.
It will help a whole lot with any private prison which is having trouble making a profit. So there's that.
Plus it's also free labor they can lease out since there's that handy-dandy loophole in the 13th Amendment 😡
Nations with their citizen's health as an actual priority have (mostly) solved these problems. The US is not a developed nation, nor a humanitarian one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Housing_First
Finally we can put these homeless people under a solid roof with their own bed where the government will pay for all their meals and ensure they have time for recreation and socializing.
As long as it's prison.
"It's not easy...", sure it is. Ban corporations from owning residential housing for rent, real estate prices drop, buy the cheaper houses, give homeless a permannent roof, done.
Politicians want to SAY they are doing something without actually DOING anything to help homeless people.
Jfc this country is falling apart
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