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We have the burdon of knowledge. We know too much. We were there when a TV turned on and you were presented with channels. Some fuzzy some clear. Sometimes your had to wiggle the antenna. The point is, there is a generation that has never known that. They have only seen a smart tv. They don't know the greener grass. TV makers are waiting for us to die and the next generation to just accept their shitty product as normal. I hate it. I hate it so much.
I hope everyone reading this knows that you can just not connect a "Smart" TV to the internet. Leave it as a "dumb" TV.
Get a separate device like a Roku or AppleTV or Amazon Fire or whatever. The garbage hardware that TV manufacturers slap inside a TV so they can advertise its "smart" features will always be inferior to a purpose built external device.
To say nothing of the security implications of having an unpatched probably unsupported IoT device running on your network for years.
Nearly hucked my Vizio out last night as I discovered that between last football season and today they have hidden the broadcast channels I receive with my antenna, in their "Free+" offerings and no longer show the channel number when you rotate between them.
This also means that when you choose "Antenna" from the input menu, you get around 15 seconds of black screen while it loads an informative slide about the change and then demands you press the OK button to finish loading their program
Then, to change the channel you must open their fiddly "broadcast guide" and use it to choose the channel you want to watch (after 15 second loading delay for the guide and another 5 second delay once you've picked a channel.
To change the TV from the Nintendo game to Fox took me 10 minutes. Then I realized Fox was showing the Packers game and I needed CBS and it took me 5 more minutes to find the menu again and find CBS.
Just last February this exact same action took maybe 20 seconds? Turn TV on, change input to Antenna, flip channels manually.
It's us or Capitalism... Personally I just use my Smart TV as a second monitor... if I wanna use it as a TV, I just go to tubi
This is why I want to piece together a oled from components, so I can have the screen but use monitor parts and it will never be smart
What brand of TV to you recommend that still sticks to the 'old ways'?
I would honestly love to try switching to an alternative than continue using Fire OS on my Insignia TV, but I don't know of any good alternatives. Maybe I just haven't dug deep enough, but most "3rd party" (not Amazon or Google) Android implementations seem to only support phones, not TVs.
Fortunately, Fire TV can still install apps from outside their app store (like SmartTubeNext), but that can only do so much.
Ok Amazon
I'm... literally saying I'd love to try anything other than Amazon's Fire OS.
I would honestly love to try switching to an alternative than continue using Fire OS on my Insignia TV
The webOS on my LG isn’t bad per se, but it’s worse than using the Apple TV hooked up to it. I’ve personally found that a box of some sort plugged into the TV well slays offer a better experience.
I just occasionally plug my TV into Ethernet overnight to slow it to pull updates. No WiFi.
Are there any dumb TVs with good panels and HDMI CEC for sale? That would be perfect to use with an Nvidia shield or apple TV or equivalent..
I never add "smart" TVs to the network and I block unknown mac addresses at the router. All apps are loaded either on a gaming console or a Roku (the lawyer units with more power). If you keep your TV off the network (and uninstall the apps), you'll never have performance issues.