Did you do the graphs in python?
Because the colours look familiar.
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Did you do the graphs in python?
Because the colours look familiar.
I did! Thanks for the example, everything was based on that 🙂
Well done, the graphs look great.
Haha they look like your example, so I guess you're patting yourself on the back? 😆
It was pretty cool to learn how to do this in python. I guess next up is learning how to do it without having to pivot table them then copy the names and values into the code one by one to make the graph 🥲
Yep, there are ways to do this with importing the dataset into pandas and manipulating it right there; then spitting the graphs out.
Maybe I'll give that a go for next year's census 🙂
Sounds like a plan
Thanks this is an interesting read. Probably unsurprising the strong technical job bias and the demographics that goes along with that.
The spoiler tag hides the text of the bar graph but not the actual image!
In my experience in IT, there are a huge range of ethnicities! So I was expecting a much wider range.
Which app are you using? In a browser it seems to work. Our top three mobile methods were Voyager, mobile website, and Jerboa, and the spoiler tags seem to work (mostly) fine in those!
Do you not get a user-agent like tag in the lemmy logs which tells you who's connecting with which client?
Sure! But it doesn't tie a specific userame to a specific client. And federated services are mostly bot chatter between servers to sends posts and the actions for users on other instances. And between that are the pings from apps and frontends to check for notifications and that sort of things. Then to work out proportions I've gotta somehow identify which requests are all from one user then only count them once, and of course the same user can use different apps. Could I use the logs to check the apps people are using? Sure.
But it's easier to just ask people.
Sigh... no it was user error. I happened to click the spoiler tags on a place were there were sequential bar charts (I was expecting pie/bar) so the bar chart 'not hiding' was actually just the next one in the sequence appearing.
Haha nice! There were some things that didn't really make sense to show as a pie chart so they don't have one. Probably my fault for mentioning spoiler tags might not work - if I hadn't mentioned it you might not have been expecting it 😆.
Cool stuff! Very extensive explanation of the results, thank you for that
I had hoped to do more, but with 69 responses, by the time you try to work out what proportion of people in Auckland are studying vs Wellington or that sort of thing, you don't have many people in the subgroups so the margin of error can be 50% or more!
This is really cool, thank you for running it!
Going through it now to look at the results :)
edit: I like the improvements you made, such as the questions that were broken down to be more informative
I realise I didn't write it here, but have talked a lot in the past about trying to stick with the Lemmy.ca questions for comparison purposes, but I tried to make the changes you suggested for next time in your results post.
I thought it was really cool that you were running an instance census and ever since I saw it have been intending to run one here, but it took me a while to get around to it.
Are you aware of any other instances doing something similar?
I think I saw in another comment about it the question choice, and I agree it was a good call
I thought it was really cool that you were running an instance census and ever since I saw it have been intending to run one here, but it took me a while to get around to it.
I was looking forward to it!
I didn't remember any other instances off the top of my head, but I checked the post and saw that @eatham@aussie.zone left a comment about doing it on aussie.zone
Maybe around November, we can check in again to see if other instances want to help brainstorm questions? That would give instances a chance to share ideas and use similar questions, and ultimately each instance is free to run the census as they see fit
Yes, that would be good! I think each instance will have questions relevant only to that instance, but it would be good to get a good core set of questions that everyone can use the same wording for and compare against other instance results.
Yup I wanted aussie.zone to run one. @lodion@aussie.zone what do you think about making an instance census like this one and the lemmy.ca one?
I'm happy for someone to run one, but don't have time to run it myself.
K. I might make one. What software should I use for polling? Strawpoll, Microsoft and google polls are decent.
Dave, you're a legend!
I propose a massive dessert competition, however we'll probably need to start regionally and bubble up the winners, I reckon (but any user should be allowed to cone and vote).
Not sure how we handle the home made vs bought scenario for ice creams, cheesecake and so on (what animal would buy crumble, is it even a thing?)
Roll on diabetes!
Could do some sort of sudden death competition? Pair up all the options, winners go to the next round, losers are knocked out.
I have no idea if store bought crumble is a thing, it sounds awful 😆
Are you proposing everyone makes and eat each dessert to fairly rank them?
I have no idea what I'm proposing, sadly - I just want all of you fuckers to make me dessert!
(and I'm happy to put in an apple and tamarillo crumble)
I'm too late to contribute to the census but I'd like to reserve a slice of your dessert please.
Sounds rad - but we should do a trade off, like 10 paces or something...
Are you near Wellington?
I can see it on a good day, I'm in Marlborough. Maybe a trebuchet would help?
A dessert trebuchet, you say? Sounds fantastic!
However for the distances involved, I'd probably need something actively driven like a catapult rather than good old gravity-fed trebuchet... Still, sounds like a splendid day making one hell of a mess!
Or we could just mail stuff. I'm working on a mousse that would fit great into a courier bag!
Hmm some sort of secret Santa where we all post each other deserts we made? Just remember, it's gotta be packaged to survive a 2m drop (and the occasional dropkick), plus no refrigeration, so that might limit which desserts we can do.
That really narrows it down! I reckon that's why we start regionally. Have the cities or districts scrap it out (fully biased self judging and everything,I guess)
I don't want to wimp out, cos it sounds fun but my commitment phobia is kicking in
It does sound good but I'm also not keen on organising 😆
You already do heaps keeping this ship afloat...
So you're saying just one more thing shouldn't be a problem?
That’s great work Dave,
I was using Memmy, but this long post wouldn’t display properly so I went to a browser to read it and found the "which app" question that shows Voyager as most popular, a quick download and that’s what I’m on now, and it works great.
Nice! Voyager started as a web frontend, and it was one of the first alternative frontends we hosted (when it was called wefwef). If you're ever without your app you can get to it at https://voyager.lemmy.nz
It works on desktop but it's a bit of an odd experience, best for mobile I think.
@Dave@lemmy.nz great write up.
When you say 'pretty white bunch' you're not wrong, a little surprising. I suspect that it would be true to say "Straight White Male" is the norm.
Mocking outselves - this might be better in !offtopic@lemmy.nz
I have a "Average NZ" That you are very welcome to mock ourselves on if !offtopic@lemmy.nz doesn't seem to fit
NZ Sign Language ... I’m all ears.
I see what you did there
I somehow think it would have very easy to [semi] ID me through those questions. I was in the in some of the smaller groupings of a few of the questions. I'm surprised at some of the small group size on some of the answers.
I suspect that it would be true to say “Straight White Male” is the norm.
It's the most common, but it's certainly not the only group. We are a lot less straight than average, for example. Having worked in IT there are people from almost every culture, and NZ European is underrepresented (partly because we have to find the skills from elsewhere). I'm curious what makes Lemmy such a technical bunch of IT workers but we've somehow only attracted the white ones.
I have a “Average NZ” That you are very welcome to mock ourselves on if !offtopic@lemmy.nz doesn’t seem to fit
Oh, I forgot about this one! I have added it to the NZ community list post.
I’m surprised at some of the small group size on some of the answers.
We got 69 responses, which is pretty good considering our userbase, but as soon as we try to break people into groups there aren't many in each group.
Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !averagenz@no.lastname.nz
This is really interesting, thanks Dave! (and everyone else who responded)
Thanks Dave, interesting stats!
As much as I’d love a diynz and Hamilton community here, I don’t think we have enough regular posters sadly. Sorry to say I’m also guilty of not contributing much lately
Yeah I think we need a bigger userbase before we can justify splitting out these things.
The graphs are really cool to look at!
Thanks! They were done in python using a script that someone else gave me, so I can't take credit for them 🙂