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In the leaked info, we know that Valve has an upcoming device that will use the same APU as the current Steam Deck. We don't know if this will be a new VR headset or a Steam Deck hardware refresh. Even though using the same APU means there won't be a performance increase, there could be various other improvements in an upgraded Deck like a better screen, etc. What would you like to see in a partial hardware upgrade?

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[–] joojmachine@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Unpopular opinion but I'd rather see wider worldwide availability before having a hardware refresh. Getting more Decks out there should be on top of the list before trying to sell upgrades, specially when the current deck does so much already.

[–] Lonnie123@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

It is a bit head scratching, but I have no idea what goes into world wide logistics. And now in the states they are even offering refurbished Decks, so they certainly appear to have enough product at this point to open things up. But maybe they dont have enough to open them up without creating another multi-month long backlog they dont want?? Who knows

[–] Molecular0079@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I dunno, the Deck is already getting slightly negative press for being behind spec-wise compared to the other portables out there. Might not be worth increasing worldwide availability if everyone already thinks its about to become outdated. Maybe they can have Deck 1 and Deck 2 in parallel just at different price points, kinda like how the Series S and X does it.

[–] Amir@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Things I don't need:

  • OLED

  • Smaller bezels

  • 1080p

  • More advanced controller buttons (DS5 triggers)

Things I want, in priority order:

  • Higher efficiency everything (mostly SoC) for better performance, lower battery drain or both

  • FreeSync

  • Bigger battery

  • Two M2 slots

[–] madnerds@midwest.social 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Overzeetop@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 years ago

On the bottom, for better/easier docking.

[–] frank@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The dream? User swappable battery. I would gladly trade up for that

[–] Secret300@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

That'd be so nice. With a very small internal battery so you can swap batteries without turning it off

[–] kib48@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago

an upgraded Wifi chip, the deck's kinda sucks

id also like either VRR or OLED

[–] raptir@lemdro.id 4 points 2 years ago

I know it's not happening, but a more powerful APU is probably my number one.

OLED screen would be my second. I don't really care about a higher resolution though.

[–] Secret300@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

I know HDR is in the works on Linux same with VRR but that'd be nice to see sooner rather than later.

Just a little bit more RAM. I know 16GB is a good amount but it is shared with the on-board graphics so at least 4 more gigs should help a lot

I think using a filesystem that supports transparent compression would be nice to as well as zram but that might hurt battery life.

[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

For the filesystem, I would recommend checking out this btrfs filesystem conversion for Steam Deck.

I've been super happy with it.

[–] Secret300@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Never new that was a thing. I was gonna just install the fedora based alternative.

[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It works really well, and it will convert your main filesystem without you having to reinstall or anything.

In addition to compression, it also will deduplicate files and set up a scheduled deduplication process.

[–] Tau@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

How much space gains do you get?

[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 years ago

On my SSD, I have 517G of files using only 410G of space.

[–] Secret300@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

On my desktop using a compression level of 3 ark with all the dlc and mods went from 300GB to 186GB

[–] Spiracle@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago

Apparently, you’re getting both HDR and VRR on the current Steam Deck soon. Currently, in the Preview version, soon-ish in stable.

Announcement: https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1675200/view/3686804163591367815

[–] Overzeetop@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 years ago

I'll be honest, I'm still having a problem understanding the draw of HDR. In about 99% of the places I watch...anything...there is ambient light which increases the black floor to a dark gray. I'm already losing the bottom 2-4 bits of depth to the room lighting and screen glare, giving me more fine control of gradients just makes for a slightly more nuanced (but still indistinguishable) dark gray (assuming I don't readjust my gamma every time I play, or when the train turns and the lighting is now coming from another direction) . The wider color gamut could be nice, but it would require a much, much better screen.

[–] FARTYSHARTBLAST@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago

Increased serviceability, especially when it comes to the battery.

Dual USB ports, one on top and one on bottom.

Hall effect controllers.

Increased efficiency/performance of course

Maybe a slightly bigger/better screen

[–] MXX53@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

2280 nvme slot

OLED screen

Bigger battery

More efficient APU

[–] kugmo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago

A better APU with no Pluton and a Freesync screen are the only things I can think of at the moment.

[–] dan@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
  • Larger, OLED screen
  • Hall effect sensor sticks
  • Better rumble
  • Support for 2242 m.2 drives
  • Second SD card reader
  • Better cooling (I’d gladly have a lump in the back middle if it allowed for a quieter/better fan)
  • Better accessory connection options (eg a standard for attaching stuff like extra batteries to the back) - I would prefer this to adding more battery (ie weight) to the unit itself.
  • Tweaks to the back buttons so they work no matter where on the button you press
  • Some sort of charging dock connection standard to avoid the manual usb connection. Maybe just a usb-c on the bottom
  • Small case design change to prevent sd cards being snapped when opening (I haven’t done it, but only by luck)
  • Replace the carry case with a plastic cover to protect screen/sticks like dbrand’s (or at least make it a lot smaller)

Better performance/more ram would be good too I guess but honestly having a unified platform with fixed specs to target has a lot of benefits.

[–] Lonnie123@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My personal and never-asked-for wish is fairly small - Backlit buttons. Id like the ABXY and Steam/start/select/Menu button to have a faint glow to them with a toggle on/off/dim in the menu. Maybe even the analog stick could glow where the current sticks are white.

For the gen pop I think the low hanging fruit of upgrades people would actually be interested in would be:

  • Battery upgrade, or some kind of switch-like efficiency upgrade that makes the battery much more effective
  • Some kind of screen improvement, be it smaller bezels or an OLED option or even both.
  • A general change in the ergonomics based on user feedback. I personally like the deck as is but Ive been surprised by stuff I didnt notice before

Beyond that its going to be niche improvements that some people may find interesting and others not so much:

  • SD and USB slot changes (additions, change in position)
  • Various internal changes with the hard drive or upgradability options
[–] Ecksell@lemmy.one 3 points 2 years ago

smaller bezels

This would be great, plus a stretch or fill option. Bezels plus letterboxing is so annoying.

[–] zyeri@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hall effect sensors, and I want to be able to pair the deck with my computer and use it as a controller.

[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago

You can sorta already use the deck as a controller iirc. You can stream a game to your deck and still have it display on your PC. Just turn your deck screen brightness down and play.

[–] Ecksell@lemmy.one 2 points 2 years ago

Assuming this is a refresh of the Steam Deck (Doubtful) or a Steam Deck 2 (If this happens, Ill eat a slice of pizza with double olive and double pineapple), I’d like the popular ones here, and A DECENT BLUETOOTH CHIP!

[–] ggppjj@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Another m.2 and an optional 5g modem would be choice to me.

[–] Tau@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago

An OLED screen and a more efficient APU (I don't care for more performance, seeing other handhelds, better performance for 15W is still some years away), that way it can either provide more battery life or the same with an slimmer battery

[–] rotopenguin@infosec.pub 2 points 2 years ago

VRR would be the #1 upgrade. A mobile chip with mobile thermals and a mobile battery cannot consistently keep ahead of the screen refresh. The screen has to be the one to step down to where the APU is at.

Hall effect sticks, mandatory. My factory sticks started acting up after about a year. The Dreamcast could do it, don't tell me that they're too bleeding-edge expensive.

Squeeze a 2280 SSD in there instead of the 2230. I would give up SD and move the radios to a soldered miniboard for this.

Stop gluing the battery down.

[–] independantiste@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

An OLED display with slimmer bezels, and a battery that uses more user serviceable glue

[–] burnso@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Better display, better form factor/ergonomics.

[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago

Current ergonomics are pretty good in my experience, but I do have larger hands. How would you like to see them changed?

[–] stormesp@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

At the very least, a weight decrease and a bit of a more comfortable ergonomics for long term play sessions, really tired of handhelds that end in a straight vertical line that make you have the wrists in tension instead of having a similar end to controllers like the one from xbox where your wrists can be without that much tension.

[–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 years ago

Better rumble/haptics differentiation

[–] butter@midwest.social 1 points 2 years ago

There's nothing that would make me get a half upgrade like that. But I would like to see improvements toward a steam deck 2. If this gets an oled screen, I'd like to see a model in number 2 with an oled screen

[–] Ninmi@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago

I don't think it'll ever happen, but I'd love to see the right side trackpad and thumbstick swap places. I use the trackpad 95% of the time and I keep wishing it was in the better spot.

[–] skymtf@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I would say a APU with some RT Cores, and maybe 1080p. If not 720p OlED will be fine. I know this is likely to compete with the ROG Ally and Lenovo Legion both of which have 1080p screens

[–] Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago

1080p is so unnecessary at this size IMO.

[–] dlove67@feddit.nl 1 points 2 years ago

The APU thats in the deck already has "RT cores". At least, inasmuch as any RDNA2+ device has them.

Though I really doubt this is an updated deck, and much more likely to be "Deckard".