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I’ll second this one. I love Proton. It’s the only free service, other than the late Apollo, that I’ve ever decided to pay to upgrade just because I love it so much. It also happens to be well worth paying for imo.
As with any service, unless you build and host it all yourself, you’re ultimately trusting some one else with your data. However, Proton are generally very transparent and, as you say, seem to really know their shit. For those reasons I choose to trust their services.
I use Proton as well. Very happy with it.
I hear a lot of criticism about them pretending to be private and not actually protecting user's data
All companies located in the west are not private. They have to operate according to the local laws, and those laws allows governments and agencies to get the data they ask for.
But depends on what you mean with private also. It's private in a way that they don't sell your data perhaps.
That is nonsense. They actioned 1 legal enforcement which every company would have to do.
Every company in the world will comply with local laws. What you can do its use Tor to access it so your IP address its safe. Send emails only inside the Proton Network so its end to end encrypted. Use a strong and a Yubikey to access it. But even with all of this if you are doing something highly illegal they will catch you. So understand this there no service in the world that will protect you.
Disroot.
Those guys are very dedicated.
"Private" and "email" should really not appear in the same sentence. The email protocol was not designed with privacy in mind, so any company offering you a "private" email service is simply pandering to the privacy-conscious crowd. Yes, some may promise to store your messages with "zero access encryption" and end-to-end encrypt messages between users of the same service but unless you're only messaging those users (not gonna happen) copies of all your messages will be hanging around on much less secure/private servers.
Tutanota, Protonmail and Lavabit are currently the most known services promising private email (I have personally opted for Protonmail because it's free and does not require invites) but you're making a mistake if you want to use email for any sort of private or confidential communication. Use mail to create an account on with a service designed with privacy in mind, sure, but don't try and twist email into something that it isn't - you will regret it.
My general philosophy with email is to use a service which would go out of business if it was found out that they've been giving 3rd parties access to your messages and even then don't store anything sensitive on mail. The ones mentioned above will do fine for that.
Skiff mail seems to be a pretty good service if you're not keen on protonmail. Privacyguides gives it a favorable review.
I like Skiff but I sent two emails with my Skiff email to my brother, but they never appeared to his email (checked spam and searched too). Only reached to him when I used my gmail address.
You can selfhost one. Probably the most private and not invite-only
Thats my end goal!