i don't wanna see another ad on the web in my life, so i'll just keep on using ublock.
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Yeah pretty much. The privacy invasion of ad companies is terrible for sure, but the whole seeing ads all over the damn place in the first place is also annoying enough that even if they were somehow completely tracker-free I would still block them.
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I said this in the other thread but it bears repeating.
Data-driven marketing and privacy are diametrically opposed.
If I want to advertise to pregnant teenagers looking at bus tickets, even if I have something helpful to say, that is a huge privacy violation to those people. And even if you say, I can't see who's being advertised to, I can see who clicks on the ads, even accidentally. Now I know a whole lot about them
I can see who clicks on the ads
Any privacy-focused advertisement program needs to prevent this. Clicking on privacy-oriented ads should be handled locally and anonymous statistics sent to Mozilla for revenue collection. There should be zero way to connect my identity with any interaction with ads.
If they can manage that, I'll disable my ad-blocking on those sites that opt-in. But I'm not giving up any of my metadata. My metadata stays on my machine, so if they want to advertise to me, they need to abide by that.
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I am a little disgusted by this because now both major browser engines are being developed by an advertising company, creating more incentives for future web technologies that strengthen tracking and undermine ad blocking.
From what I understand, this is an anonymized targeted ad company. In other words, ads are still targeted to the individual user, it is just harder for the advertiser to track (or profile) an individual user. Are there any companies still doing untargeted ads, ads where the advertiser might pick what site their ad goes on but cannot target a specific user demographic?
That's a really good point. I hadn't put it together that all browsers are now advertising companies
I think the closest we currently see, are video sponsorships on platforms like YouTube, where the creator just reads an advertisement for their audience. If you see the video you see the ad read it's not tailored at all. That is not individually targeted, but they're definitely choosing the show based on the demographics the show has.
Stolen from r*ddit, this is what the option looks like in the config (already in beta/dev channel)
also stolen from r*ddit: "Anonym was founded in 2022 by former Meta executives Brad Smallwood and Graham Mudd."
I wonder if the process is open source or we just take their word that it's privacy preserving. Anyway, privacy is not the only problem with online advertising, so I'm not going to give up adblocking any time soon.
It's just an advertising company that knows to throw in some buzzwords.
Anonym was founded in 2022 by former Meta executives [...]. The company was backed by [various venture capital corporations and multiple] strategic individual investors.
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Wow, lots of red on that page using that bookmarklet...
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Great
I love how Mozilla seems to be trying so hard to kill itself. You don't see Google marketing Chrome as the browser that serves you ads and sends back telemetry.
Not the first time Mozilla has done something like this. In 2017, Mozilla stealthily installed a tracking and advertising plugin called Cliqz on a small number of German user's computers, which provided users with targeted ads, with very similar language to what Mozilla is currently trying to incorporate with Anonym.
Advertising can't be privacy preserving. What gives advertisement value is the fact that it's targeted.
Advertising signs next to a road are both targeted and privacy respecting, just like radio/tv.
They are worth nothing compared to targeted ads online that know your soul.
That's a really good point.
However the company that Mozilla just purchased was about targeted advertisement campaigns.. "data-driven advertisements"
Yeah I'm aware, I just reacted to the general statement about advertising that was untrue imho.
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Contextual ads can be privacy preserving. As in Netflix ads in a entertainment page. The problem is targeting the ad on people, and not on content.
for anybody that wants to disable it, go to the settings and search for "Allow websites to perform privacy-preserving ad measurement"
(or through the dom.private-attribution.submission.enabled flag in about:config)
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/privacy-preserving-attribution
Bollocks
This is why i am not giving another penny to Mozilla ever again
i really wish i could donate to just firefox and not mozilla, I just want firefox to be better and not to spend money on all these weird things.
Don't worry, they can make plenty of money off of you (stock settings of course)
JS compatible browsers that actually respect your privacy:
Mozilla is not your friend, and they're not saving the web from Google
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