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Using Chrome, Firefox, Brave, Samsungs 'Internet' app, and every other browser I've used/tried on Android:

I'll go to select some text on a page by long-pressing on it and it'll select the word I'm touching as well as expand that selection to a somewhat random amount of additional text (usually not following any structure such as selecting a whole sentence for example).

I'll then go to adjust that selection by grabbing one of the two tabs on either end of it and the moment I do, the opposite tab jumps to a completely random spot on the page vastly expanding the selection, then the whole page scrolls to an entirely different section; Leaving me holding one end of the selection unable to see what was originally selected. I can't scroll to where I was, and If I let go and just click copy I've now copied 90%of the page to my clipboard.... Attempting to modify the selection any further yields the same lack of control and just makes things worse.

This doesn't happen everywhere, but I get these results far far more often than a successful copy+paste. Like just now trying to copy an address from a local transit guide.

I end up having to drop the paste into a notepad app, reselect the bit I actually wanted (if it even made it into the pile of garbage I was forced to grab) then delete the note once I'm done.

This is fucking stupid and I hate it. Rant over. Thank you for listening.

/edit: I don't have the power to pin a comment, but d3Xt3r@lemmy.world has a great solution: Use the rectangle select tool in androids 'Edge Panel' (must be enabled in settings), then press the 'T' button to copy text from the area you've selected.

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[–] MasterBuilder@lemmy.one 84 points 1 year ago (2 children)

All I can say is that it is kinda cathartic that someone other than me is experiencing this nightmare.

Also, this pages where it is impossible to select any text at all.

[–] Dee@lemmings.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Also, this pages where it is impossible to select any text at all.

On android, you can still select text on those pages from the switch apps screen (swipe up from the bottom, hold, then release on Pixels). Found that workaround on accident lol

[–] jennwiththesea@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Whoa, thank you! I can't select text in the Liftoff app, but this one weird trick works.

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

That seems to be OCR based though. Sometimes when I do it like that I get complete gibberish

[–] Bebo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Seriously, I thought I was the only person clumsy/stupid enough to mess up on text selection.

[–] LostDeer@infosec.pub 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think it’s a pixel thing, but I get around this by going into the app background thing then press β€œselect” so the phone can treat the screen as an image with text and just list out the text without any website or browser shenanigans interfering.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Samsung had something similar.

[–] d3Xt3r@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep, just use the rectangular selection from the edge panel and you can save it as a screenshot or extract the text.

[–] Bebo@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just to confirm, this edge panel function is Samsung feature, right?

[–] Lt_Worf@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

This is an awesome tip!

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

So it's not just my phone? It is android? I've had this shit only on my current phone so I thought it was just the hardware. It's not just websites or browsers; it's every fucking app, because the selection thing is handled by the OS.

By God is it infuriating that something so simple straight up doesn't fucking work in 2023.

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've had this issue for years across several devices.

I have however mostly used Samsung devices so I'm not sure if other brands have the same issue. Probably, but I can't say for sure.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I've had this LG thing (V6 Dual Screen) for years; I don't upgrade until my stuff is literally broken. Previous phone was a Galaxy S4. I didn't have the problem when it was new, which is why I figured it was hardware just wearing out. But it could have also just been one of the updates to Android itself.

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My last two upgrades have been because of dieing parts. Degrading batteries that I can't be bothered to have replaced and a wifi adapter that just quit working altogether.

I miss my Moto Z2 Play with the moto mods. Extra battery, external speakers, even a fully functional projector to share the screen. That thing was the shit.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Fuck yeah. I hella wanted that thing. It sounded neat and the projector has always since made me question why that isn't a standard thing on every phone the way the camera is? It would be awesome.

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Space. The projector just about tripled the thickness of the phone. It was really handy being removable.

I wish more manufacturers tried out the swappable add-on concept. There was lots of potential there.

I really really miss that extra battery letting my phone go 3 full days under heavy use without a charge.

[–] faintedheart@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I have used motorola, xiaomi, samsung, realme and htc. Every one of them had this issue.

[–] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

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[–] ReMikeAble@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago

I try not to think too little of myself, but I really did think this was a just me sort of thing. Thank you for so eloquently expressing the experience!

[–] silvercove@lemdro.id 8 points 1 year ago

Because websites are optimized for dummies who can't copy paste.

[–] kib48@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

I really hate that android tries to expand the selection to whatever it thinks is relevant, I don't need selection to be "smart" just let me select what I want to select

[–] sonnenzeit@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago

Yean, I hate it too. The difference to selecting text on a desktop system is night and day especially because with a proper mouse you can shift click the desired start and end points and don't even have to drag.

I've found that zooming in generally makes it more precise but that doesn't help if it means that you now need to scroll the screen because of the zoom. For some reason drag-selecting text upwards also yields better results for me than downwards.

Another trick is to request the desktop version of a page instead of the mobile version and see if it's easier there.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I'm glad it's not just me that finds this.

[–] db2@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It happens to me in a lot of apps too, even Liftoff. Is it maybe related to the keyboard app? Which one do you use?

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Interesting thought: I've been using SwiftKey for probably 10 years now.

I'm gonna have a play with some others and see if that changes anything. Not sure it will, but worth a look.

/edit: Sigh. Nope. Same results with Samsungs built in keyboard and with GBoard.

The keyboard doesn't pop up during text selection so I don't think that's having an effect.

[–] db2@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

I thought maybe it was related by way of the clipboard. Guess not.

[–] gigachad@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

I used AOSP keyboard for a very long time and now Simple Keyboard, it experience this on both. I think this may be an Android thing.

[–] Crowd@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Try using universal copy. It's an app on the play store that lets you select paragraphs or lines and then modify them (Check the press and hold behavior)

[–] thesprongler@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

These used to work so well, and I'm guessing a recent random bug fix broke it.

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

I've had this problem for multiple years across several devices. If anything it's gotten worse.

[–] op12@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One thing that might be Pixel-specific is it lets you adjust the selection after the initial copy, prior to pasting it elsewhere. One thing that may be more universal (maybe?) is copying from the recent apps screen (the one that shows when you swipe up partway and see all open apps) uses OCR so you can copy from anything, including apps that have normally blocked that functionality.

[–] renohren@partizle.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's the other way round: adjusting is pretty universal, copying from recent apps screen is more specific.

[–] Bebo@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Copying from recent apps is Pixel specific, if I remember right?

[–] Still@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I have never had this issue on OnePlus phones, I'm currently using a 9 pro 5g on Android 13, maybe this is an issue in a specific android rom

[–] brb@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Can confirm. Never had this issue on OnePlus phones either

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Hmm; I'm also on Android 13 but with a Samsung A52. Interesting to see different phones with the same Android version but different behavior.

I wonder how many manufacturers have this problem.

[–] HidingCat@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

... Is... Is that an order?

I'd love to not have this issue. Any suggestions?

[–] HidingCat@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

No, just saying I don't have this issue, sorry for the unclear wording.

[–] HidingCat@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Just to add, I tried on my A52s and A53 in a web page, no issue. Perhaps you'd like to give a concrete example so I can try and replicate it on my end?