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[–] superfes@lemmy.world 226 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not that I give a crap about Fortnite, but what an asshole.

[–] micka190@lemmy.world 38 points 5 months ago

Yeah, Timmy's had a hate-boner for anything related to Valve and Linux for years. He's been lying through his teeth non-stop whenever either topic comes up.

[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 175 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (6 children)

This from the man who thinks he's "competing" with Valve?

Valve is figuring out how to run games they didn't even develop on Linux, while Epic complains it's too hard to do for even their own games...

That's rich.

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[–] unmagical@lemmy.ml 173 points 5 months ago (3 children)

A terrifically hard audience to serve given the variety of incompatible configurations.

If your game doesn't work with my fully functional operating system (while others do), isn't it literally your game that's "incompatible?"

[–] mister_monster@monero.town 113 points 5 months ago

Plus He's talking about the steam deck here. That's 1 configuration. And Rocket League is already on steam for those who bought it before epic did, runs fine in proton. The dude is full of shit and making up excuses, it's obvious this is a business agreement and nothing to do with practicality and in lying about it he's hurting his reputation.

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 40 points 5 months ago

Plus it isn't like there aren't tons of compatibility issues with all the versions of hardware on PC.

[–] Subdivide6857@midwest.social 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

My kids, unfortunately, love the game, so I’ve kept up with performance a little bit. It seems they’re trying their best to make it run like trash. They can’t even support the few operating systems it does run on. I haven’t noticed any mind blowing graphics updates, but fps is around a third of what it used go be. Such a garbage company.

[–] atocci@lemmy.world 25 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

The cartoonish artstyle might hide it a bit, but Fortnite is basically Epic's showcase of all the newest Unreal Engine tech. The move to UE5 a couple years ago brought with it all those new features and a huge leap in graphics. Fortnite has been around for a long time now, so the minimum performance targets are probably changing as tech and average system hardware improve. I don't actually play it, but it's pretty much a different game now compared to when BR mode was first released.

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[–] nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works 106 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This is why I don't give Epic and any exclusives on it's store any money. I know 0% of it is going back into making linux gaming better.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 34 points 5 months ago (7 children)

I will happily take advantage of their free giveaways, though.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago (3 children)

The data they take from you still gives them recurring revenue.

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[–] dpkonofa@lemmy.world 79 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Why is a 2 year old article being posted now?

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 36 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Good call out. So rage bait here has hit lemmy

[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Maybe there should be a feature that warns us if the article is more then 6 months old. Our maybe a bot could do it.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 10 points 5 months ago

Lemmy just added the ability to add on server plugins. That would be a prime case for a server plugin

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[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 70 points 5 months ago

"We don't have enough developers to support Linux!"

  • Tim Sweeney promptly fires 700 developers
[–] scottmeme@sh.itjust.works 66 points 5 months ago (1 children)

He can go fuck himself with a 6" railroad spike.

At least Gaben is pushing the Linux gaming community forward!

[–] mihnt@lemmy.ca 46 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (5 children)

BUT 30%!!!!!

Yeah, that 30% means I can ditch Windows. At least it's being used for good and not just* yachts.

[–] atocci@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Uh, not to take away from your point about Steam making it possible to ditch Windows, but that money is absolutely being put towards buying yachts. Gabe Newel owns $1 billion worth of yachts, 6 of them in total. Like, good on Valve for making Linux accessible, but the money is still quite literally going towards Gabe's yacht collection.

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[–] awesome_lowlander@lemmy.dbzer0.com 66 points 5 months ago

This would be news if it were current. At 2 years old it's just clickbait

[–] theyllneverfindmehere@lemmy.world 40 points 5 months ago

Just an FYI: This article is 2 years old. Not saying anything has changed or not.

[–] kratoz29@lemm.ee 38 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Some would say not having Fortnite on Linux is a feature...

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[–] Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone 38 points 5 months ago (1 children)
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[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 37 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

Over 15k verifiable playable games work on Linux

https://www.protondb.com/

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[–] Ibaudia@lemmy.world 36 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I know this is an older article, but EAC has had compatibility with Linux for years at this point. Linux is also really easy to compile and develop for compared to MacOS. They just don't want to because there aren't enough players to justify the cost, most likely. Also might have some incentive to keep their game off the hardware of their biggest competitor.

[–] abraxas@sh.itjust.works 20 points 5 months ago (7 children)

Actually, I think they don't want linux gamers, with their higher technical savvy. Some game dev companies love how 90% of their bug reports come from 10% of their users (and even brag about it). Other companies would rather just not get those 90% of bug reports.

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[–] vinceman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Why tf would you post this without at least putting a date on it lol

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[–] Mango@lemmy.world 33 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Oh yeah, there's so many Steam Deck configurations! /s

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[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 29 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Well yeah…. They’re clearly developmentally challenged at Epic. In every sense of the word. I’m not exactly surprised that a platform still lacking basic functionality that should’ve been there on day one, has trouble figuring out Linux.

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[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 24 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Linux users are not your audience. Owners of the Steam Deck are. I'd wager the vast majority of Deck users do not have a computer that runs Linux. You don't really need to know how to do anything in Linux even in desktop mode. The environment is so similar to mac and windows for most tasks.

He's just pissy about the idea of designing anything that would benefit Steam; the heavyweight he has tried and failed to emulate.

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 16 points 5 months ago

Sweeney generally has a hate boner for Linux. It's nothing really new.

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[–] adam@doomscroll.n8e.dev 21 points 5 months ago

This is a 2 and a half (almost) year old article. I figured Tim's thoughts on this were common knowledge at this point?

[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 18 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Okay, now give me another free game Epic. I've got over 100 probably on you wacko store and have not paid for a single one.

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 14 points 5 months ago (13 children)

You say that like you're getting one over on them. But they've successfully got you to download their shitty software. You think they aren't aware of what they're doing?

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[–] randomaside@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 5 months ago

This is old news but I do often think about the flaw in Tim Sweeney's strategy to try and bully apple and Microsoft into making their platforms work his way.

Honestly Epic should have got in the Linux bandwagon years ago so they could provide their own hardware.

[–] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago

Thank you, Tim Epic

[–] alilbee@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (7 children)

The wording in the tweet in the article is a little less bombastic. He's concerned about maintaining anti-cheat for custom kernels and other Linux-exclusive issues at the scale that Fortnite runs at. Given how large the audience for that game is and the age range (which has a lot more time to dedicate) I can see how that would be a costly endeavor and look at TF2 right now as an example of what happens if you fail to do so. Combine that with the much smaller footprint of the Linux base (which is changing!) and thus, less incentive to tackle any of that in the first place.

Maybe I'm just trying to not read ill intent, but I see "Linux gamers are a hard audience to serve" as "You guys use an OS focused on freedom and customization, which means it's literally harder to serve you all effectively" and not as "Linux gamers are mean".

[–] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago

Or ya know, the steam deck is on a platform they are trying to take over by throwing money at their store. Of course they aren't going to make it easy for kids to play on deck.

[–] nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Yeah but they haven't bothered making their store run natively on linux.

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[–] TipRing@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

This is incredibly short-sighted. Having your business model hitched to a single vendor is just asking to screwed by whatever walled garden that vendor puts up. There's a reason Valve is pushing Linux.

[–] Broken_Monitor@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

Tim Sweeney is a terrifically hard person to get to fuck off.

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