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Who is this supposed to endear him to?

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[–] psvrh@lemmy.ca 15 points 5 months ago

Who is this supposed to endear him to?

Donors and "very serious people" who need to be reassured that this is still Tony Blair's Labour, and that labour has no part to play in Labour.

[–] GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk 12 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I definitely did a double-take on that. "This guy is doing what my predecessor did".

I guess he's trying very hard to not be Corbyn?

[–] frankPodmore@slrpnk.net 7 points 5 months ago

“This guy is doing what my predecessor did”.

Pretty much, but what Starmer is hoping people will hear is:

“This guy is doing the very unpopular thing my very unpopular predecessor, from whom I am very different, did”.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Given how popular Jez was at the ballot box, that's not a bad plan.

[–] Gamoc@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Yeah this way starmer won't piss off the right wing and attract the attention of their media, like Corbyn did.

[–] dajoho@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The Jeremy Corbyn attack is one the Tories always fell back on when asked awkward questions in PMQS. If Starmer uses it first to describe the manifesto, it prevents the Tories using it on Labor during the pre-election period. 10/10 top chess move.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 5 months ago

You don't need tactics to defeat the Tories. You just need to let Rishi do a lot of interviews while he talks about how poor he was that he barely even had Sky.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Dude really is your Hillary, isn't he? Assholes decided he's the devil and ruin him just by endlessly scoffing at the very idea of him.

[–] OrlandoDoom@feddit.uk 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Our Hillary? As in Clinton? That's not how I'd put it. JCs a chap who has stood up for the oppressed against oppressors regardless of who they were. He was an actual reformer, and wanted to actually help people, his party threw 2 elections for the sake of the status quo and corporate interests, and did nothing about the smear campaigns against him. The British public mostly liked him though and he brought more people to his party than basically ever, people used to sing his name.

Hillary? I mean, she was a democrat but in no way a reformer, things would have just been status quo under her like they are under Biden.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

She wanted universal healthcare since the 1990s.

[–] OrlandoDoom@feddit.uk 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Still, I'd much more readily draw a comparison between Corbyn and Bernie Sanders over Hillary any day of the week, the press tried the anti-semitism with sanders too briefly, but it didn't stick because the man is Jewish himself.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 5 months ago

No. What? People like him, he's just really fucking bad at politics. He didn't play the game and you've got to do that.

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago

Who's the Tory now?

[–] frankPodmore@slrpnk.net 3 points 5 months ago

Rating this on the bants alone: 10/10, absolutely amazing.