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considering the current state of the world and things like the resurgence of fascism and other authoritarian ideologies, do you think there is still a chance to avoid a new world war or now is unavoidable?

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[–] Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me 36 points 5 months ago (2 children)

You know it's bad when far right extremism is on the rise again in Germany...

[–] sxan@midwest.social 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And who will they pick to fight? The World!

[–] PorradaVFR@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

A Norm reference made this much less depressing, thank you.

[–] Lemmchen@feddit.de 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Third time's the charm! /s

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 36 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Probably, yeah. I don't forsee a WW3 not happening eventually; I just hope it's not in our lifetime.

[–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 11 points 5 months ago

Just postpone it to 2077

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 33 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

considering we have a record of over 6000 years of overlapping armed conflicts and wars, yes absolutely.

there has not been a single worldwide peaceful day for thousands of years.

it's not 100% sure the ones currently going on will be called world wars. maybe it will be a new one. there's always another war, unfortunately.

[–] Forester@yiffit.net 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It started in 2014 so yeah. We are just not yet to a point where America gets directly involved. We are doing the lend lease thing again.

[–] toofpic@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Came here to say the same thing. Both US and EU: "this is not real, this is not a real war".
In their delusion, are helping Ukraine, but it's a half-ass help. How should a war look to be called a war? Tanks, Aircraft, ships, 1000km trench warfare, ballistic missiles - is that a war?

[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 4 points 5 months ago

Proxy war != world war

[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

It's always avoidable. It's also still quite possible

[–] walter_wiggles@lemmy.nz 8 points 5 months ago
[–] foggy@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (3 children)

It's already underway.

China will attack Taiwan before Christmas. That'll likely be the flashpoint. That's been my two cents for over a year now.

North/South Korea going at it.

North Korea supplying Russia arms to fight Ukraine.

US okaying more and more, blurring NATO lines. NATO is basically involved in the Russia Ukraine war.

China and India appear to be buying Russia oil/gas still, keeping their war machine afloat. Amongst other financial vestments.

Then we have Israel pummeling Palestine. Iran attacking Israel. NATO countries don't agree about whether or not this is a genocide.

When China invades Taiwan, TSMC will shut down their facilities. The US has been pouring billions into semiconductor manufacturing on US soil, because when China invades Taiwan and tscm shuts down, Google, Microsoft, OpenAI, Nvidia, AMD, Intel, IBM, Meta, Amazon, and many more will be in hot water. Because of this, the US has an insane naval presence and alliance with Japan to protect the South China seas.

This is world war three. It's happening now.

[–] SrTobi@feddit.de 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What makes you think China will attack Taiwan before Christmas?

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (3 children)
[–] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago

I am 100% sure this is sabre rattling.

[–] irreticent@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Maybe I missed it but that article doesn't say anything about Christmas, December, or any actual timeline of when they plan to attack. Where does it say "before Christmas?"

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

I didnt downvote ya there.

That was a quick Google result it might not be in that article. I just chose it because AP. There's dozens of articles about conversations between Xi and Biden.

The discourse is generally "By 2025" "in 2027" and "before 2030". Given the discourse and tension in the South China Sea, it looks very much like a "By 2025" situation. Just my bet. Ties into computational supremacy, embargos, TSMC, Taiwan reunification, and more.

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[–] TheDorkfromYork@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Is there a remind me bot for lemmy?

[–] irreticent@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

@remindme@mstdn.social in 7 months

[–] remindme@mstdn.social 2 points 5 months ago

@irreticent Ok, I will remind you on Saturday Jan 11, 2025 at 2:55 AM PST.

[–] TheDorkfromYork@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

@remindme@mstdn.social in 196 days

[–] remindme@mstdn.social 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

@TheDorkfromYork Ok, I will remind you on Tuesday Dec 24, 2024 at 6:24 AM PST.

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[–] TheDorkfromYork@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

@remindme@mstdn.social on December 24, 2024.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not so long as nuclear weapons exist. I don't think any country is reckless enough to risk a nuclear exchange, and that won't change until the stress from climate change changes the math.

[–] gbzm@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Climate change is there though. It's not yet reached the "death by the millions" point, but that point being inevitable now, a nation could start thinking about the potential benefits from being the first to strike.

[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

We're already in it. There are currently 57 conflicts in the world, of which several are international. Things will escalate. World tension is rising, the far right is on the rise, it's the 1930's all over again. Or at least, in some parts of the world. In other parts it's already the 1940's, with totalitarian regimes, genocide and concentration camps.

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