Their only dignified escape from the conservative nightmare is by their own hand. Nothing good in history has ever come from conservatism. Nothing.
Conservatism is a plague of oppression and death. And the plague is spreading.
this post was submitted on 29 Aug 2023
280 points (99.0% liked)
World News
38977 readers
2212 users here now
A community for discussing events around the World
Rules:
-
Rule 1: posts have the following requirements:
- Post news articles only
- Video links are NOT articles and will be removed.
- Title must match the article headline
- Not United States Internal News
- Recent (Past 30 Days)
- Screenshots/links to other social media sites (Twitter/X/Facebook/Youtube/reddit, etc.) are explicitly forbidden, as are link shorteners.
-
Rule 2: Do not copy the entire article into your post. The key points in 1-2 paragraphs is allowed (even encouraged!), but large segments of articles posted in the body will result in the post being removed. If you have to stop and think "Is this fair use?", it probably isn't. Archive links, especially the ones created on link submission, are absolutely allowed but those that avoid paywalls are not.
-
Rule 3: Opinions articles, or Articles based on misinformation/propaganda may be removed. Sources that have a Low or Very Low factual reporting rating or MBFC Credibility Rating may be removed.
-
Rule 4: Posts or comments that are homophobic, transphobic, racist, sexist, anti-religious, or ableist will be removed. “Ironic” prejudice is just prejudiced.
-
Posts and comments must abide by the lemmy.world terms of service UPDATED AS OF 10/19
-
Rule 5: Keep it civil. It's OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It's NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
-
Rule 6: Memes, spam, other low effort posting, reposts, misinformation, advocating violence, off-topic, trolling, offensive, regarding the moderators or meta in content may be removed at any time.
-
Rule 7: We didn't USED to need a rule about how many posts one could make in a day, then someone posted NINETEEN articles in a single day. Not comments, FULL ARTICLES. If you're posting more than say, 10 or so, consider going outside and touching grass. We reserve the right to limit over-posting so a single user does not dominate the front page.
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
Lemmy World Partners
News !news@lemmy.world
Politics !politics@lemmy.world
World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world
Recommendations
For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/
- Consider including the article’s mediabiasfactcheck.com/ link
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
What if they don't have the power to topple their oppressors without foreign intervention?
It seems that's the case for Iran.
I agree. A revolution would be a violent and bloody one. I worry it would still be ineffective. Conservatism is like cancer. The treatment is deadly for both the disease and its victim.
Foreign infervention is almost always the worst possible option.
It only makes sense in the case of active mass genocides (think WWII, Cambodia or Serbia). Toppling an oppresive but stable regime through foreign power always ends in destabilisation and even more suffering to the people.
Right.
Let me know when these problems get solved doing something I don't suggest.
Latest: The Taliban have decreed that any woman caught attempting suicide will be put to death.
Correct me if I'm wrong but don't some JudeoIslamic factions already punish suicide with death?
Yes. Though it's not really as hypocritical as it seems at first glance.
Assume you view suicide as being punished with eternal torment.
Someone wants to kill themselves, but, if you kill them instead it isn't a mortal sin.
From your moral framework the execution is now a mercy. They no longer suffer, in this life or the next.
Ya know, if you believe in sky daddies and whatnot.
Suicide, really. That's the last thing you should try. You realize that suicide's a criminal offense. In less enlightened times, they'd have hung you for it.
-- Peter Cook, Bedazzled (1968)
Task failed successfully?
Good reddit humor.
They should kill the men in their lives first
I'm sure some have tried, and succeeded, and I'm sure some have tried and failed.
I'm betting what follows for both situations is making these women take their lives first instead.
What follows is death anyway, might as well make a bit of difference in the process
While I agree, there may be a difference in the level of suffering they'd need to endure before death
Disturbing yes but not entirely surprising. I hope the Taliban get their just dues for what their doing to women soon.
They won't.
By who?
The army that folded in two days after 20 years of time wasted trying to make a horse drink.
West Armies should have armed the women and minorities.
It's the middle east, they're not "minorities" in their own fucking country lol
Armed the women? Certainly would have worked if they'd been willing to fight, probably would have only driven more Afghani army into the Taliban's ranks though. Considering even the non-extremists in the area don't want women equal to men at this point.
Sharia law is the problem, we will never have a functional middle east until religious authoritarianism stops being the actual written law. Problem is most of them are comfortable in their current existence and have no reason to change. Any change we suggest or offer will just be met with "these evil westerners are trying to destroy our faith!"
I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.
Reading comprehension is at an all time low, I swear.
Lol, what?
You must be projecting.
You are incomprehensible. Dude was saying there is no way to help them. Their own army gave up in 2 weeks even after being trained for 2 decades by a professional army.
You came. in and said "don't hold your breathe"... for whatever reason... hold our breathe for what? No one mentioned anything to be waiting for...
Lol, what?
Anyone with a middle-school reading level can understand I was saying "I won't hold my breath for their military to help them out."
"incomprehensible", yeah, if your reading comprehension isn't that great. Sure.
Why would you say that? No one had said that the army was going to help. You saying don't hold your breath for the military to help is the incomprehensible part. Anyone with an elementary school reading level can see that.
Take the L and go home
Because it's true?
Lol, wake me up when these problems get solved doing something I don't suggest.
Omg can you repeat the same statement more please? You repeating yourself over and over in dozens of comments is not you being smart. We already did the intervention thing- it didn't work. Get a fucking education. Literally you would make more sense if you were asleep.
Err... say something different and then I will, lol.
It's not that difficult.
Are you saying because intervention hasn't worked in the past, then it is impossible for it to work in the future? Like there's some universal truth around brown people solving their own problems? What about intervening in Ukraine? Is that okay?
Lol. "Get a fucking education" is real ironic coming from someone who clearly doesn't have a clue about what's going on around them.
Buddy. You have no idea. The only thing you've said is "build small communities to change over time" or "they need intervention".
Building smal communities hasn't worked for the last 2000 years but sure- let's just have them do that some more they surely will do something different this time.
We literally JUST spent the last 20 years intervening. What pray tell do you suggest will be different by doing it again?
For someone throwing around the idea that others don't know what's going on around them you sure show an astonished lack of knowledge about literally what has been going on in the past few decades.
Oh and wtf does ukraine have to do with the conversation at hand? It's a completed different set of circumstances that jabe literally no relation to each other. Jesus.
You literally weren't even aware of why people couldn't just up and leave the country- you literally don't know what's happening and yet are throwing nonanswers out there.
Hope unfortunately doesn't mean anything in the face of abuse.
You either have power, or you don't.
Yeah. That’s sad. I hope there will be changes. But you’re correct. It’s a sad reality
The only way that will happen is for the women of Afghanistan to receive the same training and equipment as the Ukrainian army are getting.
Absolutely tragic, but I probably would do the same were I forced to live the life they're forced to with no hope of escape.
Soon it'll be
it kinda already is, look up bacha bazi
To be expected.