this post was submitted on 31 May 2024
217 points (96.6% liked)

World News

39000 readers
2317 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News !news@lemmy.world

Politics !politics@lemmy.world

World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

The U.S. Ministry of Defense's Intelligence Service reported that Russia has used North Korean ballistic missiles to strike Ukraine.

This conclusion was drawn after comparing missile debris found in Kharkiv on January 2 with images from North Korean state media, noting similarities in specific missile components.

U.N. experts confirmed that the debris originated from a North Korean Hwasong-11 missile, indicating Russia’s violation of the ongoing arms embargo.

MBFC
Archive

all 12 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] tal@lemmy.today 52 points 5 months ago (2 children)

...indicating Russia’s violation of the ongoing arms embargo.

I mean, I get that legitimacy matters and that Russia is on the UNSC and all, but every time I read about this, it feels kind of surreal. Like a lawyer triumphantly arguing that the person who is currently is burglarizing someone's house is parked illegally outside of it.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 9 points 5 months ago

It matters on a geopolitical scale when it comes to logistics and weapons procurement. South Korea has an enormous production capability when it comes to military industries. They currently have the largest output capacity for tanks, and we're talking about modern technologically advanced tanks, not cold war era relics.

They've also been ramping up their supply chains to focus on things like artillery shell production and naval vessel production. However, they currently have a law that prevents them from supplying weapons to nations actively engaged in a war. But, that law has a clause that allows them to ignore the mandate if North Korea is involved in the conflict.

Legally roping North Korea into the conflict could solve a lot of supply problems for the west. If that doesn't work, the next option would be to sway public opinion enough in South Korea that they change the prior legislation.

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 months ago (3 children)

It also means NK can probably be sanctioned more, because they are the supplier and their economy isn't doing so well as is

[–] tal@lemmy.today 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It's not North Korea's behavior that's being highlighted, but Russia's. Russia had agreed to sanctions on North Korea at the UNSC and is breaking those sanctions. It's not a good look to be on the UNSC and impose sanctions and then break them yourself.

North Korea can do whatever. They aren't obliged to sanction themselves.

My point is just that, in relative terms, "I'm gonna annex my neighbor, time for glorious Russian Empire 2.0" versus "I'm gonna trade for weapons from some sanctioned country to help me do so" seem almost ludicrously out of proportion. I know that there's political sense to bringing it up and all, but...

[–] brianorca@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

I'm not sure there is any more the hermit kingdom can be sanctioned, other than getting Russia and China to actually honor the existing sanctions. (Ha!)

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago

Did people think they were supplying missiles to Russia with a moratorium on them being used in Ukraine?

[–] tsonfeir@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

So, did they push it across the border and detonate it, or did they actually get it to fly this time?

[–] applepie@kbin.social 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Well, I guess we can now give Ukraine rockets to strike within Russia?! Right?

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Nah, I think by putin's logic that means we're allowed to bomb north Korea.

[–] Pixlbabble@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago
[–] magikmw@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

Surprised this isn't on the noncredibledefence community.