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What do you guys think about this glasses to use daily to escape Facial Recognition? Worth the price? Does it really work?

https://reflectacles.com

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[–] prenatal_confusion@lemmy.one 55 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is also how we stop our biggest abusers of our service. They leave such a unique fingerprint from all our other customers, we just quietly shadowban them.

[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 53 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I prefer dazzle paint. It looks way more badass.

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It doesn’t need to be as dramatic as this. The goal is simply to obscure key parts of the face that are commonly used for individualization. Between the eyebrows, the bridge of the nose, jawline, eye tilt, etc are all common key data points that facial recognition systems use to differentiate between similar faces. You can also try to avoid facial detection from pinging you in the first place, by obscuring the expected oval head shape. Style your hair asymmetrically, have bangs that droop over one eye, break up the expected round shape, use a color that mismatches your skintone, etc…

Your face paint is definitely an extreme example of the latter. But the important part is that some may actually still be able to detect a face (even if it can’t positively identify them) because they didn’t do anything to obscure the head shape or obscure at least one of their eyes.

[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 12 points 1 year ago

But I want it to be as dramatic as this.

[–] donslaught@unilem.org 2 points 1 year ago

So to defeat facial recognition all I need is a Flock of Seagulls haircut?

[–] KrisND@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

And that's how I got kicked out of the local trader joes...

[–] lud@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

In what direction are you moving in? I can't tell!

[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 40 points 1 year ago (5 children)

N95 Masks do the same thing AND reduce the likelihood that you'll contract some kind of hypothetical airborne disease.

[–] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

China government created a software that circumvent masks and they can profile your face even if you're using them.

[–] HappyMeatbag@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How is that even possible?

I wonder if they somehow have that technology, or just say they do in order to intimidate people.

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[–] SamuraiBeandog@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My understanding is that typical N95 masks may not prevent facial recognition. Different systems have different performance but many will work successfully with a masked subject. The position of the eyes are one of the key inputs to many facial recognition systems.

Exactly! This is my point , this is the biggest reason that I want this glasses. But I didn't found more information if they really work besides their own site.

[–] lemmyuser30@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Please don't spread false information... China has been able to successfully identify citizens wearing masks for years...

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Yeah but then you look like a idiot. Not like these cool DOUCHE GLASSES.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I doubt they work, and they're definitely not worth the price imo

I can get a pair of prescription sunglasses for less than that

[–] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Idk if regular sunglasses will prevent your face from being captured by facial recognition systems.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 11 points 1 year ago

I don't believe the glasses you linked will do so either lol

[–] DrRatso@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

They most certainly do not, my FaceID worked flawlessly with all of my glasses, invluding sunglasses even when I did not set it up with glasses

[–] handygaber@lemmy.one 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This seems more like an art project than a functional product. Highly doubt it'll work

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oh yeah, We're looking for that idiot in the stupid sunglasses, a tinfoil hat, and a fedora.

[–] newIdentity@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

That's a sick Raving outfit

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[–] chairman@feddit.nl 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I suppose putting on a very unique pair of glasses would for sure avoid facial recognition. Why would there be a need to recognize your face if u make yourself so obviously different vs others. Haha.

A dumbass camera would be sufficient. No need for complicated facial recognition camera.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

That's not how they work. They're highly reflective, so they block analog cameras, and they're infrared blocking, so they stop auto focus.

[–] learningduck@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But if majority wear this to prevent facial recognition, they won't be standing out anymore.

[–] M4rkF@fosstodon.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@learningduck @chairman Great!.... so just wait for everyone else to buy these first

[–] chairman@feddit.nl 3 points 1 year ago

Haha. I am also waiting for everyone else to buy one of these.

[–] baatliwala@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Put your grasses on, nothing will be wrong...

So this is what my homies mean when they say "bro this is too far, you need to touch grass"

[–] gnygnygny@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] SoBoredAtWork@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Okay. Who's doing the PDF deep dive and letting us know how this works in TL;DR format?

[–] emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Tl;dr It stops the ai from being able to recognize you as a person so it can't tell that your face is a face.

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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Worth the price is subjective. Are you a wanted criminal, or planning a heist? Then probably yes. Otherwise, probably no.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or maybe attending a protest in China?

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago

I would definitely want something more than these glasses in that case, but that's another possible use for them for sure.

[–] newIdentity@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Maybe you just want to look sick at the next rave.

Not their intended purpose, but that's the only one that doesn't sound stupid

Edit: looking at their website, that might be their intended target audience.

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] soviettaters@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] smeg@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago

Lol what? The met aren't even representative of policing in the UK, let alone the rest of Europe!

[–] UrLogicFails@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As far as I can tell, these supposedly protect you from facial recognition because they reflect IR. I'm not an expert in security cameras, but don't they only use IR at night? While they could technically run 24/7, that would burn out the LEDs in half the time.

These are also quite similar to the "anti-paparazi" reflective clothing. If you are interested in these as a statement piece, those might be of interest to you as well.

These seem like the developer came up with the function of the sunglasses after coming up with the sunglasses (after being inspired by the anti-paparazi clothes).

All in all, I don't really see much value in these sunglasses; and I suppose I wouldn't really be that concerned about facial recognition with proper masking safety, anyways.

[–] Shurimal@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

I’m not an expert in security cameras, but don’t they only use IR at night?

Precisely. And good security cameras with Sony sensors only need IR when it's pitch black. During dawn, dusk and summer nights at Nordic latitudes they don't even switch to night mode, showing sharp full-color image almost 24/7—watching that footage you wouldn't even realize that it's taken in natural light with sun below the horizon.

And facial recognition is a standard feature these days. It's become so good that you can have two pictures of the same person, one taken at age 15 and the other at age 95, and it can still say with >95% confidence that it's the same person. And that's the prosumer-level stuff available to every Jack and Joe to install to their small business or suburban house. I don't even want to think about what the alphabet soup orgs could have access to.

I have some experience with Dahua cameras and NVR-s. Their technical capabilities are both amazing and scary at the same time.

[–] ChiefSinner@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I wonder, could you get them with prescription lenses or would it defeat the purpose of the glasses?

[–] Quereller@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago

I am always reminded on the scramble suit from a Scanner Darkly.

[–] Gush@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Mate they're ugly as hell, i won't buy that shit

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