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[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fascists: Interrupting drag shows since 1938!

[–] Black616Angel@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Actually ~~not~~ it's complicated.
Fascinating as it may sound, transvestites were mostly allowed in the third reich, when they weren't homosexual.

The even got their own pass:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transvestite_pass

After reading the German and English version I am a little puzzled, since the German version says, that they were kept and transvestites stayed unharmed when not homosexual while the English version says:

After the Nazis came to power, most passes were revoked or German police refused to recognize them.

The German original source says the following:

Sofern Trans*personen den „gegen sie erhobenen Homosexualitätsverdacht entkräften konnten, lässt sich in keinem Fall eine Strafverfolgung nachweisen. "

Which translates to:

If trans*persons "could invalidate the suspicion of homosexuality, there is no evidence of criminal prosecution."

[–] Holodeck_Moriarty@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

This is somehow more intimidating than uniforms.

[–] fiat_lux@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I prefer more drag, less death and suffering.

But not more fascists either, which presents a dilemma.

[–] RelentlessArts@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just like dead fascists I can't help it.

[–] fiat_lux@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just hate suffering so much, even the suffering of those deliberately causing suffering. It's a weird philosophical paradox I struggle with and I'm not sure how to resolve it.

[–] RelentlessArts@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well you're better than me because I have definitely relished in the suffering of those who've caused suffering. World needs less of me tbh.

[–] fiat_lux@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think it's "better", necessarily. It's partly a protective measure against empathising with people who cause suffering. Because I don't want to suffer.

Aggression against people who cause suffering is a different protection mechanism, and we are both just products of our experiences.

The world needs more people who can engage with self-awareness and evaluating their motives and actions, which you seem able to do. I wish you no suffering!

[–] skulblaka@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Having both types of people is important to a healthy society. The world needs paladins, those willing to wield violence in the pursuit of justice. A society without them would be ripe for strongarming by anyone with a loose set of morals and empty pockets. But we also need people like you, to keep us in check, so that the whole world might not go blind from our eye for an eye.

[–] sorebuttfromsitting@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

this is confusing. what happened?

[–] skulblaka@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

1940, some British soldiers were rehearsing for a drag show that they were putting on within their platoon because they could and because it was fun, it helps keep morale up during wartime. During rehearsal, the Germans begin their raid on Shornemead Fort, where said drag rehearsing troops were stationed. British Chads, without even stopping to change back into uniform, immediately man the naval guns and return fire on the Germans. One of them, instead of passing the ammo, took a photo of this because how could you not, it's incredible.

[–] Kruemel@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks for context. Here some examplary "source", shornemead fort brings up alot in search. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/british-soldiers-in-drag-nazis/