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[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This will surely not further radicalise the populace.

[–] charliespider@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the populace are not the radicals

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Hence why "radicalise the populace" is a phrase that makes sense.

The populace, containing many people who are radicalised and many others who are not radicalised, may become further radicalised by gaining a higher proportion of radicalised people in response to state repression.

If the populace and the radicals were the same set of people, then there would be no further radicalisation possible.

[–] charliespider@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree with your comments, but I meant mine in an uno reverse kinda way, in that the Iranian government are the dangerous radicals.

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago

Ooooohhh okay understood.

[–] bobman@unilem.org -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It won't galvanize the protestors, that's for sure.

Unfortunately, abusers don't care about bravery or persistence. They only respond to force, and if the abused doesn't have the force necessary to topple their abusers, they will continue to get abused.

It's really that simple. But yeah, thoughts and prayers. NO FOREIGN INTERVENTION. Just thoughts and prayers <3

[–] Apollo@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you really want NATO to dismantle the government and then leave the country to sort its own shit out? Have you seen Iraq, Libya, or Afghanistan recently?

The West generally lacks the public support necessary for an occupation of the length it would take to rebuild Iran. The international community has no appetite for NATO backed regime change.

[–] bobman@unilem.org -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No, I want them to slowly and steadily build and fortify settlements where people can live free from the oppressive regime.

Taking the entire country at once is asinine. Build smaller settlements within it to slowly change the culture over generations.

It won't be easy, but it's the only viable solution unless a cultural shift happens from within (it won't.)

Wake me up when these problems get solved doing something I don't suggest.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Conservatism is a plague of oppression and death. It always has been.

The U.S. caused this conservative end-game for the Iranian people. The U.S. should remove these oonservatives from power and give the government back to the normal people.

[–] electrogamerman@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Cause Iran was heaven before the US arrived in Iran.

[–] raunz@mander.xyz 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Solidarity with the Iranian people. Down with Khamenei!

[–] bobman@unilem.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But no foreign aid, right?

Brown people have to solve their own problems? Even if it doesn't work?

[–] trebor8201@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Short of a military invasion, how might we send aid to the people of Iran protesting their own government?

[–] bobman@unilem.org -3 points 1 year ago

It will take military intervention.

It's either that or we do nothing effective.

Wake me up when this problems get solved with something else.