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[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 75 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

Epistemology should be taught in primary school.

I mean that unironically. Learning about simple principles like non-contradiction and logical fallacies can help inoculate against so much bullshit.

With AI distorting the internet in every capacity, virtually everyone needs a new norm for evaluating whether their knowledge can be justified.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 29 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Epistemology, Logic, and Science Literacy fite me. These are the tools you use to teach yourself, anything.

[–] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago

non-contradiction and logical fallacies can help inoculate against so much bullshit.

That's exactly why its not taught.

[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It should be part of a 12 year rhetoric program. I didn't learn anything in English class after the 3rd grade. Granted, I was considered gifted, but you have a lot of slack to put in philosophical foundations and logic.

[–] geoff@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I have taught my children epistemology for this reason. It is THE key skill in the disinformation age.

[–] RandomStickman@kbin.run 34 points 11 months ago (3 children)

When I was doing my undergrad in biology the amount of my classmates dismiss philosophy as "soft humanities" or just "word play" is disheartening. For my humanities component of my grades I took all philosophy classes and I had a great time. It's a great crossover when Philosophy of Biology was offered.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 20 points 11 months ago

It's not just the undergrads.

[–] PrinceWith999Enemies@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I’m a theoretical biologist.

The best book I read on multilevel selection theory was actually written by a professor of philosophy. The author broke down the individual concepts, as they do, so that anyone reading it knew exactly what each technical term referred to. Biology is my favorite subject because there’s so much that we’re still figuring out and it’s just ridiculously complex.

I might have had a similar hot take as an undergrad when everyone has an ego based on their major - and I was even a computer engineering student for awhile, and engineers tend to be even worse at that sort of thing.

[–] Truffle@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago

I am not a biologist but could you please share the name and author of the book? Sounds liek something I'd enjoy TIA

[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago

The Word Play criticism is probably based on Analytic Philosophy, which honestly does come off as a whole bunch of wankery from the outside.

[–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This meme is perfect, because that's cat's face is saying "I don't know what is happening or why, but I'm determined to see this through to its conclusion"

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 16 points 11 months ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Getting_to_Philosophy

I kinda love that this is a thing. All things lead to philosophy.

[–] Haagel@lemmings.world 16 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Descartes warned us but we didn't listen

[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't Descartes' maxim deal more with ontology than epistemology?

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Which is why he was trying to warn people about his enemies the epistemologists

[–] vaquedoso@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

For Kierkegaard.

[–] berryjam@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 25 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Epistemology asks what do we know and how do we know it. In other words, it's the theory of knowledge.

Quick introduction: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r_Y3utIeTPg

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

it's not where they cut the vagina and anus into a cloaca?

[–] Ageroth@reddthat.com 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Yep. It seems people either didn't get it, or didn't find it funny.

[–] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 months ago

I think you missed the proper formula for that joke, prople took it as genuine.

"No, you're thinking of a surgical procedure done to enlarge the vaginal canal."

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 5 points 11 months ago

Episiotomy

TIL

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 5 points 11 months ago
[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 8 points 11 months ago

for heckin'

[–] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago

PhD Philosophy Demonised

[–] yamapikariya@lemmyfi.com 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I just assumed that the graduate has a Ph of D.

[–] treesoid@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If we assume hexadecimal, that is a pH of 13

[–] yamapikariya@lemmyfi.com 2 points 11 months ago

Mmmm sodium hydroxide. Basic.