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[–] PDFuego@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It's too blurry to see what year this was, but we're currently taught (in Australia) not to do the Heimlich manoeuvre. Also that if you're doing CPR alone don't bother with the breaths, the chest compressions are more important - only do breaths with a second person so you can keep compressions going uninterrupted.

The poster's 2014. And yeah, Oz does seem to advise against abdominal thrusts (Heimlich), instead recommending chest thrusts. However, the US and European agencies recommend back slaps/coughing and then the Heimlich.

Also yeah, breathing in CPR doesn't really show benefits that outweigh lost time, so probably just compress.

[–] UID_Zero@infosec.pub 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Also that if you’re doing CPR alone don’t bother with the breaths, the chest compressions are more important - only do breaths with a second person so you can keep compressions going uninterrupted.

I took a class last year that said this. It was "Shock and Compress." The compressions are doing more good than worrying about breaths. And delegate someone to find an AED.

It felt a little silly taking that class given that I work for a health org, and I'm fully remote. The odds of my needing to know if seem pretty low, but you never know when it might be important.

[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 1 points 6 months ago

I know a family where they all took CPR lessons after grandpa had a cardiac event at Christmas and the 14 yo granddaughter was the only one who knew CPR due to a babysitting course she took over the summer.

Sure, EMTs can walk you through the basics over the phone until an ambulance gets there, but that's much better as a reminder than a initial lesson.

[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Just an addendum, don’t hang up on the mouth to mouth. If it’s family etc., or you want to, then go for it. But the compressions are what’s vital at the time and some air movement will happen with good compressions. Don’t skip the compressions because you don’t want the mouth stuff. You can skip the mouth stuff for your safety.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Compressions force the blood flow. If you can keep some blood flow through the brain, almost everything else is survivable/fixable. Compressions are 100% vital. Brain tissue dies real quick without blood flow.

Also if you're doing it right it is fucking exhausting manual labor so switch out every minute if you have another person available. And you will probably break some ribs, that's just how it is.

[–] Donut@leminal.space 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I always thought you shouldn't put running water directly on the burned area but let the water hit above it so the running water goes past the burn, so to speak.

My best guess is that it would be less shocking due to less kinetic energy hitting the wound. Searching online doesn't give me a conclusive answer to whether that is detrimental, helpful or neutral.

[–] PDFuego@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

Just don't turn the tap on full blast and it's fine. You just want cool flowing water to soothe the burn, you're not trying to clean it or anything.

[–] rando@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Is it just me or can image be clearer? (Maybe higher resolution?)

[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 2 points 6 months ago

That was already a sharper version I could find, and I edited it to increase readability via sharpening and decreasing grain

[–] Drusas@kbin.run 2 points 6 months ago

Any good first aid lesson should include how to use steri strips.