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context: the devs of Project Elixir have paid features in their ROM. If you try to bypass it , they will wipe your internal data and esim EDIT: the devs response

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[–] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 92 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Nice. So trying to look at this rom under the hood causes a device wipe? Am I understanding that right?

Sounds like fucking malware/spyware if you ask me.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago
[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 75 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I cannot open that, it shows a login page. Could you post a screenshot of what this is supposed to contain?

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

thx and wtf.
How can people even use android without adb shell?

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What do you use ADB for?

Since adb backup has been deprecated, I don't see much use for it. Only for recent Android versions which disallow installation of apps targeting low API, as that can be bypassed using ADB.
Or maybe for apps like scrcpy.

[–] Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 5 months ago

I guess adb backup was before my time. I did use adb to transfer my apps when I last restored a twrp backup. In perhaps a similar manner to what that did, going by the name. But I did use adb root for that.

Otherwise, I use it to set a lot of otherwise inaccessible settings, like making the back gesture a lot thinner than intended because my touchscreen can handle it, or forcing 120Hz everywhere. I can also set my dpi there without anoying apps.

And ofc I use it to uninstall system apps I don't need.

After initial setup I do all of that in a root bash session in termux admittedly, but if I hadn't rooted my device I would still want to do most of that using an adb shell, as most of it doesn't require root (besides maybe the restoring backups part).

I also use shell environment to semi-automatically transfer media files for certain processes, though I'll probably move that over to syncrhing at some point.

The main remaining advantage is the ability to automate things on my phone from my pc, I don't see a lot of those as replacable unless my rom installs kde connect as a system app and they add an immense amount of functionality

[–] 2kool4idkwhat@lemdro.id 46 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

From the ROM website's footer:

A custom ROM based on AOSP, which offers a minimal UI enhancement & close to stock pixel Android ROM with great "Performance", "Security" and "Stability".

I see now why they "quoted" stability :P

Oh, and just using ADB is enough to trigger the code to wipe the data. But that's fine according to the developer because "its just a format data, not like your phone gets destroyed"

What makes this even funnier is that on their website they say that the ROM is great and all (with very poor grammar and odd phrasing), but they don't say what they actually changed. The closest thing I could find was their screenshot gallery where they show some new icons and AI-generated wallpapers

Also corporate memphis art everywhere because why not lol

I feel sorry for anyone who was using this ROM, but this whole thing is hilarious

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

& close to stock pixel Android ROM

Then why not just use the Pixel Android ROM?

[–] 2kool4idkwhat@lemdro.id 2 points 5 months ago

Idk, I didn't design their website Β―\_(ツ)_/Β―

[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 1 points 5 months ago

Elixir supported a vast amount of devices.

[–] cole@lemdro.id 1 points 5 months ago

holy shit their site has a lot of ads

[–] Todgerdickinson@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Who is this for really though? Any person installing roms is clued in and knows what they want. This β€œstable” author’s custom-rom credentials should be drop kicked into the sun.

[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 5 months ago

Sounds like they may have set it up to wipe for security paranoia, and maybe not to be jerks?

[–] univers3man@lemmy.world 40 points 5 months ago

What the actual fuck. This is unacceptable from any dev.

[–] casmael@lemm.ee 34 points 5 months ago
[–] green_dot@le.fduck.net 26 points 5 months ago (1 children)

funny tho, I was supporting a PE "dev" for a while.. lovely news

[–] Welp_im_damned@lemdro.id 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Wait this is the same dev that did pixel experience??

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)
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I hope.

[–] green_dot@le.fduck.net 8 points 5 months ago

Yeah, Project Elixir.

[–] Bezier@suppo.fi 17 points 5 months ago

It's hard to trust software that places this little trust on me.

[–] sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I’m a iOS developer just lurking here but, are paid features in custom ROMs common? Since they’re all downstream of AOSP, wouldn’t it be possible to bypass anything like that fairly easily by just commenting out the paywalls and building the ROM yourself?

[–] Welp_im_damned@lemdro.id 6 points 5 months ago

No not really. Maybe the early access is paywalled. But that's usually it.

[–] limerod@reddthat.com 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Interesting, it appears they archived the github repos on may 19th after that tweet.

More ironic about them wiping your data considering they credit other ROMs!

[–] Welp_im_damned@lemdro.id 5 points 5 months ago
[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure no one uses this so it doesn't matter. However, I'll keep it in mind.

[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Thousands fo people used it

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

*of

Really? I've never heard of it so I'm glad I'm not affected.

[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

ElixirOS UI was sleek and attractive. I also considered to switch my Pixel 4a from LineageOS.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 months ago

Maybe someone will fork it

I've never even heard of it. Anyway, use Graphene if you have a Pixel, and ideally DivestOS if you don't