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[–] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 32 points 4 months ago (19 children)

Not a US citizen and don't know enough about geography, but even though I'm a very avid anti-car person, many people do depend on cars there given that the US is that big. Plus in a situation like this where you'd ideally want to evac as quickly as possible, I do quite get that struggle.

Do let me know if I'm missing something here though

[–] themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works 44 points 4 months ago (11 children)

I think the point is that with a robust high speed rail infrastructure and an appropriate mergency response to multiply trains on the escape routes, a lot fewer people would die because it would be considerably more efficient.

I'm not sure I buy it as people tend to evacuate with large belongings that fit in cars but wouldn't necessarily fit in trains, though I suppose freight trains could also move them efficiently.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 27 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I guess this is also why many evacuation plans for extreme disasters say to leave your belongings behind.

[–] RagingHungryPanda@lemm.ee 7 points 4 months ago

I'm pretty sure that every time we evacuated to a relative's house, we over-packed. But most of that "overpacking" wasn't just all the clothes, it was often food in the fridge going into ice chests, lots of water, extra fuel.

It would be common to get stuck in traffic trying to leave, and it even happened a couple of times that the highway was down to a complete stop.

I guess the unfortunate thing there is that they often "counter flow" the highway as well, meaning that they put all lanes leaving, but people rarely ever knew, so I sometimes saw someone going the "wrong way" on the highway while we were outside of our cars wondering what was happening.

Getting stuck like that was rare, but to avoid it you have to leave a day or two before everyone else.

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