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[–] kbal@fedia.io 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I think the fediverse has a better chance of doing more good, and Mozilla should've stuck with it.

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

But they did stick with it, AFAIK? They just took down their mastodon instance, that's absolutely not the same thing. Unless you mean to imply that all of us here, using this but not running our own instance, are also "not sticking it up for the Fediverse" or so.

Plus, let's not forget that by their underlying nature, Reddit and Twitter are not ad-driven via the ads shown directly. The real ads are in astroturfing, promotions and subtle pushing of products and ideas. And Lemmy, Mastodon, et al are just as susceptible to that, if not more so, lacking a usable central authority to curb such behavior if wanted.

[–] verdigris@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You know the fediverse doesn't make its own browser right

[–] kbal@fedia.io 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It serves here as an example of what an Internet without ads might look like. Mozilla has the kind of resources that could've really helped its development if they'd been capable and determined enough to succeed in turning whatever crazy project they had in mind when they launched mozilla.social into something practical. If they'd built something good it could have earned them much goodwill and prestige, maybe brought in a little money somehow or other, and gone some way to ridding the Internet of the infestation of adtech that currently afflicts it.

[–] verdigris@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"somehow or other" is doing a lot of heavy lifting here.

[–] kbal@fedia.io 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not really. It's just an aside for the bean-counters.

[–] kbal@fedia.io 2 points 2 months ago

... but you know, it's not difficult to think of possibilities. They could have a shiny new line of business providing hosting, spam detection, moderation, and other services for whatever new and improved flavour of fedi instances they can create in accordance with all the principles they used to talk about. They could use their marketing team, their money and connections, to become the provider of choice for corporations, governments, and NGOs who don't yet realize that they need their own instance.

Would've been worth a try. Instead, after so much fanfare, they ran a small mastodon instance for a little while and then cancelled the project. I suppose it's likely that the same kind of fate will befall the new ad tracking stuff before too long.

[–] cpjoa@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 months ago

Maybe the fediverse could define a limited subset of web standards, such that creating an alternative browser capable of rendering all services remains tractable.