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[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (17 children)

I think she’s got a fair chance of winning FLA, but if she does, it means she’s already won most of the swing states, so there’s not much point in investing the massive amount of cash it would take to win. But, like Iowa and Alaska, the fact that it’s this close is a very encouraging sign.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (6 children)

That's not how that works. It's entirely possible she wins Florida and loses Michigan for example.

[–] RupeThereItIs@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's highly improbable though. If she flips Florida, a state she's down in despite the headline, she most likely won Michigan by a wide margin.

It's possible, but like pigs learning to fly possible.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Florida and Michigan are not connected at anything but the national level. They have completely different local and regional constituencies. You cannot compare states on opposite sides of the US like that.

[–] RupeThereItIs@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Bullshit.

Hell they are in the same time zone, it's just a straight shot down i75. What's this opposite side of the country crap?

They are different, but a swing that big to the left in Florida is almost impossible without a national swing of serious size, thus Michigan which leans left already would be in the bag.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

And California is a straight shot down the 40 from North Carolina. Surely you're not suggesting they have the same culture and constituencies?

National swing is one way to do it. And it needs to be big because you're activating a few people in every state. If you concentrate on a state you might hardly move the national needle but you could seriously swing the state.

Now add in other stake holders like the abortion rights movement and the fuck DeSantis movement and you've got ways the vote can change with the national candidate doing absolutely nothing. Of note both of those are going to do nothing in Michigan, while Michigan's uncommitted movement isn't going to bother Florida at all.

So no, not bullshit. I don't know who told you the only possible way to change minds was at the national level but they were very wrong and now you're very wrong.

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