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Giuliani’s attempts to overturn 2020 election partly thwarted by wrong number
(www.theguardian.com)
this post was submitted on 03 Oct 2024
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NY metro here at the time. He was close to being shunned by 2001. He wasn't performing well, he wasn't that smart, he wasn't effective. Then 9/11/01 we suddenly all had to band together. Nothing saves a term in office like massive tragedy in which everyone is emotionally charged and any act of rebuilding is "doing their best". His platform prior to that was that he was tough on crime and took credit for a drop, but you can see the trend started prior to his terms and there was a national drop as well, so it's not his sole doing. The 80s were a terrible time in NYC, way more dangerous than whatever fears the right enstills in their following today. Plus, statewide/nation wide impression of him won't match the city's impression, since he was still conservative. I will say, he wasn't as far into conservatism in his policies as he and his cohorts are now. So while he may not have been as favorable across the board, he wasn't so polarizing.
See: Bush, George W.
Just a friendly quiet older guy who chokes on pretzels like the rest of us at best, puppet for war profiteers at worst. Certainly not really responsible for any of the travesties related to him. He was just reading a book to children.
I don’t believe he was dumb enough to fall for all that shit. He was just as complicit as the rest of them. And since he’s the one at the top, he bears ultimate responsibility. Ergo, he is directly responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people. I wish that pretzel was a little bigger.
Meant as sarcasm, but I get it
That's very interesting. Thanks for the write-up. Reminds me a bit of the premier of Ontario where I am. Started life as a petty drug dealer before getting into right-wing politics, and quickly fell out of popularity cutting services and tearing down wind turbines across the province. But with his career on the rocks, the pandemic suddenly hit. That was basically his 9/11 and people rallied behind him. Never mind that his previous cuts to healthcare had exacerbated the crisis. But he's back to his douchebag ways now.
Weren't the 70s worse than the 80s? I mean around 1975 when the city ran out of money.
It's probably a split decade of 75-85. The 80s are probably worse by raw volume, the 70s are probably worse per capita. It all depends on which stats you look at. It also depends on what's reported. Supposedly, part of Giuliani's improvement comes from recategorizing crimes into untracked categories. Losing money would also have a delayed effect as the missing funds trickle down