this post was submitted on 21 Sep 2024
827 points (98.6% liked)

News

23311 readers
3368 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

What is going on here? The laws came into place in September 2021, but mortality was already climbing from 2019-2021. What was going on those years to cause this? Then a sharp decline in mortality between 2021 and 2022 for two of the three groups.

[–] DJDarren@thelemmy.club 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

20/21 was also peak Covid, so could be connected.

[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I really wish the article talked about those years rather than just comparing 2019 to 2022, given that 2022 is a drop compared to 2021. Or if the article had showed the same chart with national data of those same years 2019-2022 for a good compare and contrast visual to show the national mortality rate climb and then post-Covid drop. As it is, the law goes into place and then mortality rate drops, which could easily be a talking point in its favor, even if it may be a deceptive point. By not addressing that, and instead glossing over the article seems incomplete.

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Lockdown - domestic violence peaked during those years as well. Abusive men often use birth/pregnancy to abuse their partners, because they feel like their partner is obligated to be with them now that they share a child. There can also be some jealousy issues from the man towards the baby or the wife, since they get special treatment especially during pregnancy and right after.

So you'll see more stuff like deliberate poisoning (including sneakily feeding foods unsafe for pregnant women), beatings, rape. They will also delay or deny medical treatment.

Oh actually, that's probably a big reason too - people stopped going to the doctor during those years because we were told not to. It was too busy and overwhelmed. We were told you'd get covid and miscarry if you went in to the doctor also. Prenatal care is HUGE for preventing deaths during birth. My guess is a combo of factors.

[–] DokPsy@infosec.pub 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Defunding of women's health programs such as planned parenthood started long before the actual ban

[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But then overall mortality went down in 2022 compared to 2021?

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Covid was going down by then I think.

[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The comment I replied to said the spike was due to woman's programs being defunded. I don't know if it was that, or covid, or something else. Right now it appears everyone is speculating the reason. Some detail, specifically some from the article would have been helpful. In its face, the article is blaming a 2021 law for a rise in mortality between 2019-2022, despite the mortality rate declining overall after the law went into effect. I don't think that's the whole story, but the article seems to gloss over it.

[–] punkaccountant@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

According to the cdc website pretty much everywhere in the u.s. went up during 2020-2021 and things started coming down 2022-2023. In fact it looks like the average across the u.s. was pretty much back to “normal” by 2023. But what we see here is that while things declined again for TX in 2022, they still remain quite elevated above 2019 while the u.s. average went back to pre-pandemic average, which would tell me that something else is going on in TX unrelated to the pandemic.

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 month ago

For a more interesting question, why did it go down for everyone except white women, and increased for white women? That's weird enough that it feels like there's a reason, but I have no clue what it might be.

[–] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This graph is useless without a source. We don't know how the data was collected or how many data points are included (or discarded). This is probably just lying with statistics 101.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Lie_with_Statistics

[–] tee9000@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh I didn't realize it was from the article because there is no source!

[–] tee9000@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I mean most people are guilty of trying to discuss a topic based on the post title. But if you want to throw shade you should check your work.