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So, in other words, no, you don't have a better idea. Got it.
Omg.. getting reddit flashbacks right now...
Complaining to the mods about things the admins do? Very Reddit...
Are people really arguing with you and not realizing you already ruled in their favor?
Pick your battles people. You don't bite the hand that's feeding you and all that...
The only idea you will accept is yours, literally has to be there cause of no particular reason other than personal desires and wants.
Its like saying the only option is punching or kicking children cause you won't accept the answer of "stop abusing them!"
Maybe just back off and listen? Or at this point I am forced to assume the mods are being paid for including something that has not been positively talked about once. And they are just taking payment.
Oh, no, we're fully accepting of other ideas. We even had a meeting with another fact checking company who wanted to charge us 6 figures for API access, so that's a non-starter.
The basics are really simple - You think MBFC is biased? Cite an example and name someone better.
We're waiting...
You aren't accepting of other ideas you just want someone to tell you what they are apparently. These "fact checkers" are for making a profit or paying themselves and mostly exist to make you feel good about being picky with what information you ignore in a world where there mostly isn't good options for any number of reasons depending who you agree with.
You can't seen to get the idea that we don't view it as necessary and visual clutter. And the option we are aiming for isn't a replacement that you seen to be stuck on because, see above.
https://misinforeview.hks.harvard.edu/article/the-presence-of-unexpected-biases-in-online-fact-checking/
People aren't likely to change their stance either it just reconfirms set feelings for the most part unless it is a lie at which point it should already be removed right?
So this is at best a badge for pretending civility. It's pointless.
We are accepting other ideas, so far nobody has offered any.
So, for example, AllSides is great for tracking bias, but has no meter for credibility. We have no problem with a biased source, so long as it's credible.
So, for example, National Review has a right bias, but is highly credible. Fox News has a right bias and is not credible.
AllSides will just tell you both are right bias, which isn't helpful for our purposes.
The one we had a meeting with, had a good tracker for both, but wanted a 6 figure payment to access the API, which, as volunteers, we can't fund.
So far, the folks complaining about MBFC don't offer a solution, only complaints.
Wow that response is exactly my point. It's like talking to a wall.
"You aren't open to other ideas!"
"Here's a list of ideas we looked at."
"It's like talking to a wall!"
You sure you aren't looking at a mirror when you say that?
Still open to alternatives if you have any.
Ignoring the fact that I keep saying the point is to not bother including it at all and has been since the beginning. That any bias source is pointless unless you are using it for moderation purposes at which point it is none of our concern cause we won't be able to see the untrustworthy articles you would decide to delete.
Demanding an alternative when being told the concept of picking any single source bias checker is pointless, insists that you refuse to accept any idea on this other than a deep seated desire that you want it for emotional reasons. Last time I repeat this. You are a waste of time and truly a poor communicator.
Again, your complaint is that we're using a single source checker, but you offer no alternative.
If you want to say "Why don't you use 'x'?" I'm happy to look at it. So far, we're striking out.
But the bot DOES use two sources, MBFC and Ground.News.
You can't really say we aren't considering alternatives when I've provided a list of alternatives we did consider all while providing absolutley none of your own.
Tell me what to look at, we'll consider it.
Ideally: