this post was submitted on 24 Aug 2023
1287 points (97.6% liked)

World News

38979 readers
2169 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News !news@lemmy.world

Politics !politics@lemmy.world

World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] fluke@lemmy.world 125 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Honest at this point I wouldn't even blink if Prigozhin popped up in the future to tell us they faked their deaths.

To be clear, I believe that he's dead (and that it was probably an assassination by Putin), but so many other outrageous things have happened already little surprises me.

[–] WhipTheLlama@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's the first thing I thought when I heard about his death. He should have known that Putin would likely want him dead, so pretending to board a plane that gets shot down is a pretty good way to fake your death. Does he use his fake death to plot revenge or to escape, never to be heard from again?

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Who knows if Putin even wanted him dead. It could be a way for him to step out of the spotlight and let Putin show what happens to those who disobey. They have a huge issue with deserters.

I wouldn't be surprised if they were found eating kaviar off each others nibbles.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Putin wanted him dead without a doubt. He challenged Putin's authority and marched his forces on Moscow. The Wagner group made Putin look like a scared little bitch, which he probably is in real life, so he's insecure about it.

Both sides are violent oligarchs that murder people for profit and power. I'll quote Clarence Darrow here:

“One reason why we don’t kill is because we are not used to it. I never killed anybody, but I have done just the same thing. I have had a great deal of satisfaction over many obituary notices that I have read. I never got into the habit of killing. I could mention the names of many that it would please me if I could read their obituaries in the paper in the morning,”

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 2 points 1 year ago

Sure they probably would kill each other just for fun, but they were also allies until this.

It's about money. They're mercenaries. If they don't get paid, they'll bite the hand that feeds them. That's likely why they marched to Moscow. So Prigizhin got paid and they turned around. But what now? Prigozhin has the money. Suddenly dies. Did his mercenaries get paid? Dead men don't pay bills. There's no hand to bite. The mercenaries were prisoners before they joined Wagner. It's unlikely that neither Putin or Prigozhin gives a fuck about them.

If you ask me, it's really fucking convenient for both Putin and Prigozhin to fake his death right about payday.

[–] imaqtpie@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 1 year ago

I wouldn't be surprised if they were found eating kaviar off each others nibbles.

I did not ask for this mental image today

[–] 0Xero0@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

I'd hoped he piloted a Kamikaze plane into Putin's card fortress so both of them could go to hell to meet Hitler whom they admired so much

[–] letsgocrazy@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago

At this point it's such a clown show that I wouldn't be surprised by much.

[–] bobman@unilem.org 9 points 1 year ago

Prigozhin was thought dead from a plane crash before and arrived 2 days later.