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Because Russia just invaded out of nowhere, right?
Yes that is indeed what happened.
Jeffrey Sachs: The War in Ukraine Was Provoked—and Why That Matters to Achieve Peace
Etcetera.
Well you're just stupid then
I might be, but lets put that to the side, why did russia invade ukraine?
If you're actually curious and have 20 minutes, try this video: Ukraine: The Avoidable War
NATO expansion
Sovereign countries can't choose their allies? Really? When long-time neutral countries have decided that not even being neutral will protect them anymore from invasion, your answer is that they should be invaded?
Russia has the world's largest land mass of any country, and the longest border. And they think they're entitled buffer states all along that border? How is that in the interest of the people in those neighboring states? Most of them have already experienced the joys of having a Russian boot on their neck, and have voted with their feet to control their own destinies instead.
No, you can't just place NATO missiles on the border just like the US freaked out about the Cuban missile crisis, which ironically was the USSR just retaliating because we placed missiles close to them in the first place.
Also another reason for the war is that we directed Ukraine to kill their ethnic Russians in the 2 independent republics. Putin complained to the UN but nobody would listen. Also we couped their government in 2014. https://youtu.be/L2XNN0Yt6D8
History started only in the 2000s for you. I understand.
Which is not real. I am saddened you choose to believe in it.
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(via this article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enlargement_of_NATO ...which will presumably amaze you)
Posting maps and call it a day. Classic. Any kind of context is for nerds I guess?
Please dear, don’t do that. It makes you look so painfully misinformed.
Your comment I replied to also doesn't say anything about the context of the expansion, it just says it "is not real".
But if you want some context, I encourage you to watch the 20min video i posted earlier in this thread.
He and I already gave context upthread, but here it is again.
Demonstrate a good faith attempt to answer the question yourself. It's been two years.
You're the one that asked the question, "Because Russia just invaded out of nowhere, right?" It's clearly your turn to answer here.
I wasn't signing a contract to provide a service. I was mocking you for being oblivious/dishonest.
I'm just happy there's no mental gymnastics anymore about them being the invader. That's something
Hey look who peeked their nose outside of their mind palace
Wat
What part am I explaining?
Preferably your whole comment
What do I get out of it?
New fone who dis
boomer
Boomer who?