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[–] oatscoop@midwest.social 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I'd agree, yet I keep seeing people argue the counteroffensive is going poorly for Ukraine because they're not making serious gains in recapturing territory. People forget that there are many ways to "win" a war: one of which is the enemy simply giving up and withdrawing. Chipping away at the enemy's ability or will to continue fighting is a path to victory.

You don't need to steamroll the enemy if you make it militarily, politically, or economically untenable for them to hold a position.

[–] NumbersCanBeFun@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Attrition is a powerful factor often forgotten in war.

Easiest way to beat your enemies? Surround them with pointy sticks and slowly poke and starve them until they give up. Bonus points if you hurl dead animals into their village.

Obviously that’s a bit crude but I wanted to highlight the fact that this tactic is as old as time. If they widdle Russia down far enough they might be able to make the sweeping charge everyone wanted to see.

[–] shastaxc@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] NumbersCanBeFun@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks. I was struggling with that one a lot 🤣

[–] Mitchmaker@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

Just mount the animal heads onto missiles.

Much more effective.

[–] _wintermute@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Attrition is a powerful factor often forgotten in war.

Lemmy armchair 5 star general recently completes Sun Tzu's Art of War and thinks things are being forgotten about military tactics.

[–] NumbersCanBeFun@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I’m actually from Kbin, so uhhh yeah.

Also I’m pretty sure most people learned about this in high school and just forgot because history is boring to most people except nerds like myself.

[–] bobman@unilem.org 6 points 1 year ago

Anyone saying Ukraine isn't moving quickly enough is the kind of person who will 'go out in a blaze of glory' on the battlefield by charging the enemy like a fucking idiot.

After they get shot in front of everyone, they just serve as an example of what 'not' to do to win a war.