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I need a new phone but I want to do this right (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 1 month ago by hector@sh.itjust.works to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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(Please when answering, assume I’m not a beginner at privacy/programming :) I know where the good stuff at)

First off, shameful confession: I’m writing this on a dying yellow iPhone XR I bought second-hand three years ago (189€). I absolutely love the look of it: the screen, build quality, are all amazing. The only problem was the locked ecosystem (sideloading Spotify/Torrent client was sooo hard).

I saw the android phone of my mother dying really fast. She currently has a Xiaomi phone that’s ridiculously big for my hands, there’s advertisements in the stocks apps (?!!), the UX is janky and everything. It looks like a bloat, privacy nightmare.

So… because it’s impossible to find a jailbreakable phone nowadays I need to buy an android and ideally I would want:

Good screen (vivid colors)
Good build quality (not shitty plastic)
Don’t care about the camera (I don’t want those ridiculously big cameras they make nowadays)
Would want to install either GrapheneOS/LineageOS

The things that scare me off:

I really need my bank app and I need it updated so I have to use Google Play Services but I don’t want it to plague my phone with privacy bullshit (I want to be degoogled)

The things that excite me:

Customization possibilities
Learning experience
Even more privacy than a de-googled IOS phone :)
F-Droid!! (Maybe I’ll find a beautiful IRC client)
More choices for Mastodon & Lemmy clients
Freedom of free software.
client for open-source git providers :)

But to get all of that, I don’t want Google, I need shitty apps (non-free software) I have to install:

Instagram (for non-technical friends)
GitHub (job & open-source)
No-Ad Modded Spotify from Balatan
Discord (gamer friends)
Telegram (cryptobros friends)
Steam (because I still love gaming)

Any advices? Phone ideas? I’m so lost in this ocean of choice (freedom ✨)

My current phone:

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[–] loganb@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Generally agreed, I would actually try using as many services with their progressive web apps.

The main reason I think they may need google services is the banking app. Mine will refuse to launch without google services installed.

[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

Probably an unpopular opinion, but I've never seen the point of PWAs. I don't want a crappy website as an icon on my homescreen, I want a proper native app. If the app is privacy-invasive, I will either find a FOSS alternatives, or isolate it in a separate user profile.

The main reason I think they may need google services is the banking app. Mine will refuse to launch without google services installed.

That's true, I also need Play services for mine, but I have a special user profile for it.