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I just moved into a student dorm for a semester abroad, and beforehand I emailed them asking whether they had ethernet ports to plug my router into (I use it to connect all my devices, and for WiVRn VR streaming). They confirmed that I could, but now that I'm here the wifi login portal is asking me to accept these terms from the ISP, which forbid plugging in a router. There's another clause that forbids "Disruptive Devices" entirely, defined as:

“Disruptive Device” means any device that prevents or interferes with our provision of the 4Wireless to other customers (such as a wireless access point such as wireless routers) or any other device used by you in breach of the Acceptable Use Policy;

So what are my options? I don't think I can use this service without accepting the terms, but also I was told by the student dorm support that I could bring a router, which contradicts this.

EDIT: some additional context:

  • dorm provider is a company separate from my uni (they have an agreement but that's it)
  • ISP (ask4) is totally separate from dorm provider, and have installed a mesh network that requires an account. On account creation, there are many upsells including one for connecting more than one device. The "free" plan only allows me to sign in on a single device, and I can upgrade to two devices for 15 pounds.
  • ethernet requires login too
  • VR streaming requires a high performance wifi 6 network, which is why I bought this router (Archer C6 from tp-link)
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[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Most commercial networks systems have the ability to detect rogue access points by analysing the radio spectrum, and hiding the SSID will not avoid detection once traffic starts flowing to it.

And they can triangulate the position of the rogue AP.

[–] mat@linux.community 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Interesting about hiding SSIDs, I never knew why that option existed. I'm here on Erasmus so I don't want to risk too much by knowingly breaking rules... them triangulating it to my room and starting a legal case or something sounds real scary.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

them triangulating it to my room and starting a legal case or something sounds real scary.

It's also incredibly unlikely unless you're actually causing problems

If you really want wireless, do the Ethernet > Desktop/Laptop with hotspot and limit it's TX power WAY down to minimal levels.

You should be able to use it within your dorm room fine, but will have trouble penetrating beyond the walls and will also make detecting and triangulation quite difficult

[–] mat@linux.community 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So technically I should get away with connecting the router and making an AP right? I can't do a hotspot from my laptop because the performance is not high enough for streaming (this is why I bought a dedicated router).

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

In that case I would pickup a cheap USB Ethernet dongle (or 2 if the laptop doesn't have an onboard one)

Wall > Ethernet 1 and router > Ethernet 2

Configure windows to share Ethernet 1 connection to Ethernet 2 (Builtin functionality since Windows 7 iirc)

Configure the router for minimal power to the radios, use your laptop to handle captive portal and there should be no DHCP interference concerns with the Windows laptop on the middle in this fashion

Boom done, congratulate yourself a lil for a small win over corporate greed lol

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Also, connecting an access point that doesn't broadcast its SSID has another side effect: all devices configured to connected to it will periodically broadcast a signal to search for that hidden AP instead, so it makes you even easier to track down anywhere else.

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

That's assuming they're actively looking. Hiding your SSID is more to prevent someone from getting suspicious and calling out the ISP.