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[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 46 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The coordinated messaging all emphasizing how this was accidental and these longtime trolls didn't know (or bother to ask) where the money coming from is... something.

[–] realcaseyrollins@thelemmy.club 9 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Isn't that just trickling down from the DOJ though? The article says:

The U.S. Justice Department doesn’t allege any wrongdoing by the influencers, some of whom it says were given false information about the source of the company’s funding. Instead, it accuses two employees of RT, a Russian state media company, of funneling nearly $10 million to a Tennessee-based content creation company for Russia-friendly content.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 32 points 2 months ago (1 children)

True, but these people have been completely aligned with Kremlin talking points for years, and I wish the article and others would take the time to point that out. I'm sure it can be phrased in an ambiguous enough way that the reader can draw conclusions without it being libelous.

[–] realcaseyrollins@thelemmy.club 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The AP is a straight news organization, I'm sure there are plenty of left wing articles about the situation that mention that though.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't MBFC already rate AP as "left"? Any factual reporting outlet is going to be called "left" because facts are seen as "left" in today's Overton window.

I think it's dishonest to pretend these Russian operatives had any plausible deniability. There is absolutely nothing plausible about their denial. Just because they weren't charged with knowingly accepting Russian money doesn't mean it wasn't extremely obvious that they knew where the money was coming from.

[–] Delta_V@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

MBFC is full of shit when describing bias - they call firmly right liberal capitalists "the left". I don't think they even have a word to describe actual socialists.

They're decent about judging the reliability of factual reporting though.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Your comment is 100% factual. That makes you a leftist!

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Nazis are always treated with kid gloves by the US "justice" system. Same as it ever was.

[–] realcaseyrollins@thelemmy.club 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

And many others.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

Nowhere near that deeply complicit. These are just garden-variety traitors.

[–] Delta_V@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

A lot of today's problems, like the rise of the KKK, stochastic terrorism, and infiltration of law enforcement by neo-nazis, can be traced back to an insufficient number of Confederates being hanged after the war.

[–] NotAnotherLemmyUser@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Same as it ever was.

I doubt this was the case during (and for at least a time after) WWII. But maybe a history buff can correct me. I haven't looked too deeply into how the justice system handled Nazis that far back.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 2 points 2 months ago

The US loved to hire Nazi scientists after the war.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 months ago

George Bush Sr's dad was a literal co-conspirator to overthrow US democracy and install a Nazi government.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

Before the war, they were treated very leniently. Nobody was charged in the Businessmen's Plot, the leaders of the German-American Bund were left alone, companies like IBM and Ford that traded with the Nazis were never punished for it, and even after the war, during the Red Scare, people were put under suspicion for "premature anti-fascism."

[–] grue@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Okay, then the DOJ grasping at any flimsy excuse to avoid indicting the traitorous right-wing influencers themselves is... something.

That better?