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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 281 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (16 children)

"It's NOT a gun control issue, it's a mental health issue!"

"Then we're expanding access to mental healthcare?"

"Fuck no, that's SOCIALISM and psychiatry is bullshit anyway!"

[–] CaptainEffort@sh.itjust.works 90 points 2 months ago (3 children)

It’s frustrating because I believe it’s a mental health issue primarily. But god forbid we actually help people deal with their trauma and pain.

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 72 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It can be both! And a problem with bullying in schools. And lack of ways to escape poverty. But having any changes that affect any of those things is verboten to the places where land gets more of a vote than people in cities do.

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago

Never thought if describing the electoral college that way but it is actually a pretty good analogy

[–] CaptainEffort@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Don’t get me wrong, I’m for gun control. I just believe that if we lived in some utopia with zero mental health issues, it wouldn’t be an issue regardless.

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 30 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Therapy and meds can't fix poverty perpetrated by the ruling class.

But I generally agree.

And did you know utopia means "place that cannot exist" while eutopia means "a perfect place". Not correcting you, I just think it's funny that euphemistic drift has flopped it fucky.

[–] CaptainEffort@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I actually had no idea, that’s interesting, I’ve never seen that. Gonna use eutopia way more now tho lol

[–] hakase@lemm.ee 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

That semantic drift happened in the 1600s. It's meant "any perfect place" for 500 years.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Hahaha, semen.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 42 points 2 months ago

It's not even a mental health issue either, ultimately! The traumas that result in mental health issues themselves have a cause, which tends to boil down to systemic inequity of some form or another. And our rulers not only have fuck-all interest in fixing that, but also a vested interest in actively perpetuating it.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I definitely feel some kind of way about this because dead children seems to be the primary issue from an outside perspective and ending easy access to weapons would be the single most effective way to fix that.

but without proper mental healthcare these people will then just have a knife party and take slightly less people with them ... so there's also that.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago

Or a car or a bomb...guns are just the tool being used currently.

The systematic issues our society faces are the root cause and until we resolve those, this will continue to happen.

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