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Loving USA Culture (lemmy.world)

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[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Lol, no.

how many European countries have their version of Hollywood

Most have them, but Europe speaks dozens of languages, so they are all comparatively small compared to the big English-speaking ones.

Disney

We mostly are still building on rehashes of old European folk tales, just like Disney. That said, for example Dutch "Disneyland" exists, you just never heard of it because you did not grow up with Max & Moritz, but Dutch kids did.

Silicon Valley

Well, that place is mostly about venture capitalists who originally got rich off neocolonialism doing dumping schemes on various industries. Their biggest, most impactful cultural achievement is internet ads.

You just don’t spend anywhere near the same amount of money on movies, music and TV.

We do, but we watch our own TV because you don't watch French or Polish shows or games. Except when you do, and it gets translated, like with the Witcher. Also, with music, have you heard of Eurovision? Biggest song contest of the world, with even Australia participating? The one where Celine Dion, Julio Iglesias or ABBA got their start? You probably listen to a ton of songs that debuted there, you just don't know it.

All I'm saying is that just because European low art is not big in the US - even though it is, like Harry Potter, Lego, basically all Western (as in Wild West) movies (they were Italian) - it does not mean it is not bigger in Europe than US art.

Edit: Why the downvotes though? I am not saying "US culture bad", just that "European culture exists". Could anyone elaborate on what's so bad about what I'm saying?

[–] jawsua@lemmy.one 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm not taking issue with anything else, but I just have to say something about the last bit of what you said.

Westerns. No. Not all of them. Or even most of them are from Italy. That's a special and significant subgenre called Spaghetti Westerns. Or Italian westerns, mostly because of Sergio Leone, these happened in the 60s and 70s. But if you look at the history of westerns and western movies, they were made in the US starting all the way back in the 1910s with silent films and continued on into the golden age of the 40s and 50s.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 months ago

I stand corrected, not a big fan of them so I didn't think about it too hard.