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And unfortunately lemmy.ml is getting more online traffic recently.

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[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

Spend some time browsing through the instances communities.

It is well known that that both the main devs of Lemmy (whose home instance is Lemmy.ml) are ~~communists~~ socialists who side with the ideals of China (CCP). Also, it may be less known that the .ml is short for Marxist/Leninist or Marx/Lenin. Either way, it’s a hat tip to ~~communism~~ socialism.

They are known for being heavy-handed with post/comment removal and bans of opposing views of any kind. Viewing their mod log would attest to that.

[–] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

That’s is a lot of words to hand wave away a reasonable expectation as you say “do your own research.”

Stated without evidence dismissed without evidence, etc.

[–] Kalkaline@leminal.space 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's really easy to demonstrate. Ask them for an alternative to Harris/Trump and they'll run around in circles to not give you a candidate and then tell you voting doesn't work.

A lot of people genuinely feel that way even if I think they’re wrong and it’s unproductive

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I’d like to apologize that you felt my response was dismissive. I certainly did not intend to make anybody feel that way. I didn’t have any specific examples to give, so I approached it from an anecdotal point of view based on my personal experiences.

[–] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I appreciate that and I could definitely do with less snark in my comments. That being said accusing the CCP of astroturfing lemmy instance at scale is a serious claim and it needs real evidence.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

If it means anything to you, my responses were not meant as accusations or attacks. Merely observations of the things I’ve personally seen. But I can appreciate your view of things, and I respect that you may disagree.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Does it matter who is doing it? Social media is rife with propaganda ever since r/the_donald was such a successful operation.

There are no volunteers that respond as quickly and consistently as r/t_d mods did. Anything counter to the narrative would be removed within seconds, at any time of day

[–] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The problem pre-dated the_donald and we aren’t debating if who is doing it matters/if it’s happening. You’re completely reframing this discussion into something I didn’t say and ignoring the initial claim I took issue with. It has nothing to do with the original discussion.

[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Minor correction: tankies aren't communists.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Now that you mention it, I just realized I meant socialism and not communism. Thank you.

[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They aren't socialists either. Socialists want workers to own the means of production. MLs want the state to control the means of production. The two are inherently incompatible.

[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

True though I’d give them props for accepting correction and actually thanking the source of it.

If everyone behaved that way, online spaces would be far less toxic and misinformation wouldn’t spread so easily.

[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You're right; I was insufficiently friendly with my response.

[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 3 points 2 weeks ago

All good brother