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PPP loans were provided to businesses so that their employees werent immediately fired wholesale - which is what would have happened to many businesses when the customer base dried up during lockdown/covid. businesses are a net gain to the economy - they provide economic stimulus. allowing businesses to fail would just start a collapse. PPP loans by the government worked to prevent that - rather well, in fact.
students eventually provide economic stimulus but are a net detriment until they are capable of adding back to the economy & that includes paying off their student loans.
and again, students are an economic sink until they're able to contribute to the economy. conversely, a business will always contribute to the economy - even a failing business pays their employees (or doesnt and the DoL sues them, then pays the employees).
PPP loans were a stopgap measure to ensure that the economy didnt collapse when old people were dying in droves. literally all it was. PPP loans were forgiven because the national economy requires that businesses move money around - the "spice must flow", if you will - and rightly so, because a business is useful, whereas students really arent.
You do realise that most people that have student loans controbute to the economy already because they work after studying for a short time?
Those people can often barely afford to live because the companies that got PPP loans do not pay them a living wage. Those people can't afford buying things which in fact is the only the only way that an economy works.
Without consumption the economy crashes.
Additionally the PPP loans didn't have any oversight. Many business owners used them to buy a new car, a Yacht or other luxuries.
Do you think it is fair to forgive loans for the rich but not the poor?