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Like fossil fuels come from organic matter that grew because of the sun. Is there any form of energy on that cannot be traced back to the sun in some way?

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Would hydro and geothermal count? Wouldn't count wind because wind is caused (mostly) by the sun heating things up.

[–] Maestro@fedia.io 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I wouldn't count either then. Hydro is ultimately powered by precipitation, which is caused by the sun evaporating water. Geothermal is ultimately caused by the gravity of the sun affecting the earth.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I agree with hydro, but you're wrong about geothermal. Tidal forces caused by the Sun are minuscule compared to that of the Moon. Also, Earth still has a decent amount of latent heat caused by its formation.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 months ago

Does it? I thought it was overwhelmingly radioactive decay driving it at this point.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Geothermal is ultimately caused by the gravity of the sun affecting the earth.

No, that's how it works on the Jovian moons, but Earth's interior is heated by some mix of radioactivity and retained primordial collision heat.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well there is still nuclear, piezoelectric, and kinetic, at least.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What are you going to use to actuate your piezoelectric or pedal generator? If it's alive, it's probably eating sunlight somehow itself.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Rocks collide in space all the time. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 months ago

I guess if you can catch a meteor, that is plenty of energy, haha.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 months ago

Hydro is also the sun - rain is delivered by (solar) evaporation and wind.