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"The concern with slavery is the innocence of victim. When that’s removed, it’s no longer controversial. At least it shouldn’t be." (news.ycombinator.com)

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[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 54 points 2 months ago (2 children)

No, the concern with slavery is the lack of agency for oneself at the behest of another. A slave has no say in how their body is used and it's a violation of the human rights to be your own person. Whether or not they are guilty of a crime is irrelevant.

Punishment for a crime does not mean permitting abuse. It means rehabilitation or isolation from others. They can still be their own person and aren't forced into labor, but are not allowed to be a part of society again.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Slavery violates bodily autonomy, which is basically the worst ethical failing imaginable, worse than killing.

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 19 points 2 months ago

I think killing someone is a pretty major violation of that person's bodily autonomy.