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[–] Frog@lemmy.ca 87 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Mr. Zelenskyy, please show a different set of plans to Trump. He is a traitor to the US democracy, to its government, to its people, and countries in NATO.

[–] einkorn@feddit.org 36 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Why should he talk with Trump? He is an ordinary civilian.

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

for disinformation. if he shows a different plan to trump, it will end up in russia and cause confusion

[–] smeenz@lemmy.nz 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

But the only reason anyone would show plans to Trump would be to get them in front of putin, so they would be assumed to be misinformation.

Maybe he should show trump the real plans..a bit of reverse psychology maybe ?

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

1000 IQ 4D chess

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Actually he's a convicted felon

[–] Visstix@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"It may sound too ambitious for some, but it is an important plan for us," he added, saying that he would also show the plan to both US presidential candidates Kamala Harris and Donald Trump.

[–] einkorn@feddit.org 6 points 2 months ago (3 children)

This doesn't answer my question.

In the current situation, Trump has no influence on decision-making in regard to Ukraine. Until he is possibly elected president, he is just an unnecessary security risk.

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Because Trump would spill the plan to Putin. He's already handed over documents regarding the US agents working in and around Russia, several of who "mysteriously" got caught not long after. He's definitely a security risk.

[–] einkorn@feddit.org 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Neither does your response answer my question.

I asked why Zelenskyy SHOULD talk to Trump, not for reasons against it.

[–] null@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 months ago

Okay, I'll answer. He shouldn't talk to Trump.

Not sure why you're so fixated on getting an answer to that question, but I hope that helps.

[–] volkerwirsing@feddit.org 1 points 2 months ago

This just shows how Trump completely destroyed normal politics. It does make sense for a country in Ukraines situation to talk to both parties and to get both parties on board. Then the plan could move along regardless of who wins the election in Nov. This would have been possible in the past, with George W. Bush, Obama, Clinton & all other presidents and was actually done for other conflicts and topics in the past. Trump... is special.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago

To hedge his bets. He can't let the future of Ukraine be entirely decided by a US election that's out of his control.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Yanks secretly want a monarchy thats why the still refer to people no longer in office by their title. Trump could get security briefings but it is apparently not happening at the moment.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

33% do. The rest of us just want the government to do it's job and protect us from foreign adversaries, corporations who want to poison us, and billionaires who want to go back to the feudal age.

Unfortunately that 33% has way more pull thanks to the outdated electoral college and are unfathomably stupid thanks to lead pipes and Republicans actively sabotaging the educational system.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

They could just save themselves the trouble and mail them straight to Moscow.