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[–] amanneedsamaid@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, but the law you proposed would allow that to happen. That isn't a straw man, it's your proposed idea not being very good.

[–] sarjalim@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's not my proposed idea, it's an actual, contemporary Swedish law which has existed since 1948. What is up for debate is how that law is to be interpreted in this instance, what constitutes "creed" (in, perhaps, a better translation of the original Swedish instead of "religious belief"), and what constitutes a "message" and whether burning a Quran is valid criticism of Islam or if doing it at that time and place is a hate crime targeting Muslims. It hasn't been tried in the Swedish supreme court whether Quran burning in certain contexts like the recent events is illegal under that law or not.

Technically, sure, you could argue that everything can be a religious belief/creed and any belief is covered under that law. But that is not how the law is interpreted and used in practice. I would consider that a strawman argument then, because it intentionally misrepresents the spirit of that law.

[–] amanneedsamaid@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago

That makes sense. I guess I don't really see the point of the law. If a message of hate goes too far, it would already fall other applicable laws against harassment or discrimination. Why does there need to be legislation specifically protecting against hate crimes?