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The emissions from the EV are largely because we've not yet gotten fossil fuels out of electric generation.

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[–] Mac@mander.xyz 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

EV SUVs are already a (very popular) thing. I'm sorry that you take issue with that.

OP didn't say anything about big lifted overlanders, you're projecting. They, like me, might think the base Bronco is a cute little SUV that is styled well and has a really pretty color combination.

Also, there's nothing wrong with bringing a wild energy setup for an adventure.

I honestly can't figure out if you're butthurt about SUVs, EVs, or lifted trucks. lmao

[–] sonori@beehaw.org 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It’s also confusing because it’s not like there isn’t a electrical grid within a hundred miles of where one would go off roading. Us rural mountain yokel’s actually do have plenty RV parks, hotels with EV chargers, and plenty of other places with household outlets that allow overnight charging.

There are also of course a lot of other reasons people might get an electric SUV, not least of which are that there are actual options in the market segment, no one makes electric vans with sufficient range to make it between interstate and highway fast chargers or minivans period, need to seat more than four people comfortably or seven people total, need at least some towing, need a decently sized cargo space that isn’t seat shaped, etc…

I mean i’d love it if car manufacturers would stop shoving everyone towards high margin SUVs and Pickups, or made EVs in more than large sedan and SUV flavor, but it doesn’t feel like that’s what they’re talking about.

[–] blandfordforever@lemm.ee -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I think what annoys me is the oxymoronicality (is that even a word?) of the whole thing. We're excited that EVs pollute less. However, we're choosing a less efficient, more pollution creating, worse version of the new, better thing: The efficient type of power in the body of a gas guzzler.

ICE vehicles are unsustainable. EVs are also unsustainable but they're a little better. We should strive for even more efficiency and even less pollution.

I should probably just take my attitude back to the "fuck cars" community.

[–] threeganzi@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

If we could just have a tax based on carbon footprint it would incentivize better decisions. And perhaps start low and then slowly increase the tax at a constant and predictable rate so industry and consumers can plan ahead. The tax income could also be equally distributed to all citizens, where people with less carbon footprint gets money back. And now we’ll have a thriving economy driving the climate transition.

Check out Citizens Climate Lobby by the way.