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I feel so lucky to have never bought into the apple mobile ecosystem every time I have to test any of my web apps on iOS safari. What a shit browser (which you have no choice but to use).
Not to mention having to own several special lightning shit cables to support my test devices. ๐คฎ They only switched to usb-c because the EU forced them. That detail alone is enough to know what a shit line of products they are cultivating.
But yeah takes me about one second to miss my android device
I have switched straight to iphone 15, so USB C cable, not that I use it, airpods are lightning, not that I use it, since I am charging both wirelessly.
The website I work on, works for fine for me, so not sure what your issues are.
Wireless charging: because it's always reliable, convenient, and available.
Do you support any older iOS versions? Anything that uses video, PWA or features added to other browsers >2 years ago? If yes to any of those questions, I have to think you don't actually support/test in iOS safari. Which btw often works differently between iphone and ipad. And their simulator support only goes back a couple of versions, despite the fact that Safari does not auto-upgrade and is tied to major os releases. So if you have users with older devices, you cannot ever take for granted that your app/website will work fine for them without testing on either a simulator (excludes OS versions over like ~2 years old), or maintaining and testing on a physical library of devices with older versions that you make sure you always refuse updates on.
It's abysmal to support safari ios unless you don't care about lower income/education users who have 5 year old devices.
Safari and videos are a nightmare to work with, there's always something that doesn't work right, when Chrome and Firefox work fine.
Are you me? I feel like I never speak to anyone who knows that pain like I know it.
You are right, I don't, because they don't need PWA to use the website, and there is no video content, life is good, and those who can't use it are dropped, we are not going to sacrifice developer capacity to support a very minority of users.
That's the apple user credo. "If I can't do it, it's really better anyhow because I didn't need to".
A decent web browser isn't deeply tied to the operating system version and isn't 5 years behind on some features while pigheadedly refusing to ever implement others. A decent web browser doesn't force you to use it. You choose it among other options and seek it out. A decent electronics company doesn't force you to buy proprietary cables just to charge their devices.
Congratulations though, your website users are all wealthy westerners.
They are the farthest thing from it, lmao, you dont even know how wrong you are, but I see you stรญยด possess the teenage angst of ios v android wars
Okay, if "angst" means I routinely suffer on the job because of shitty apple business practices, call it whatever you want. The reason I have all these issues is that apple architected safari this way, and we have a lot of lower income users that we don't have the privilege of ignoring. I'm guessing many of them know if they update their OS they will experience planned obsolescence first hand, so they have no choice but to use a 5 year old web browser that was 3 years behind standards on the day it was released.
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