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[–] iforgotmyinstance@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The NRA serves as a backchannel for Russian financing and special interests (read: subterfuge).

They are literally traitors to this nation.

[–] bownt1@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

you dont like the nra because of a bunch of made up russia bullshit i dont like the nra because wayne lapierre shot an elephant over and over again because he is a terrible shot

[–] joseph@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

I mean... I don't love the NRA. But... Source?

[–] joseph@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The NRA sold magazines about guns, totaling $2500, to Russians or american citizens living in Russia. "The NRA is literally traitors to this nation!"

The NRA VP took a vacation he paid for almost entirely himself, (with a few things written down as NRA expenses for tax reasons), in which no Russians paid him anything. "He's peddling political influence! He's a traitor!"

You have the russian brain rot.

[–] bownt1@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

do you mean magazines you put bullets in or magazines with pictures and articles ?

[–] joseph@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pictures and articles. People in Russia, presumable american citizens living abroad, pay membership dues and buy magazines, and this is the basis of the claim that Russia is using the NRA as a front for the trump campaign.

[–] bownt1@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] joseph@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

That's my point.

[–] iforgotmyinstance@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They literally arrested a full on Russian spy amongst them, please unfuck yourself.

[–] joseph@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You have the Russian brain rot.

Butina plead guilty to working for a foreign government, probably because she didn't have the money to fight the battle in court. But the person whom she allegedly funnelled money from, Mr Torshin, had his investigation dropped because there wasn't sufficient evidence.

The FEC general counsel's office concluded in 2018 that there was "insufficient" evidence to state that Russian money was illegally funneled through the NRA to influence the presidential campaign.

So now, what's more likely: that Butina plead guilty under pressure, or that she was funneling huge amounts of money to the NRA, so much damnable tracable money that they can't even get any credible evidence that the guy she's getting the money from was trying to influence politics at all.

What's much more plausible is that butina has always been a guns rights activist in russia, so her interests naturally carried over to america, and she got caught up in a bogus investigation that even the FBI admits was politically motivated.

[–] bownt1@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

gun rights are human rights