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[–] SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As I suspected I had been conversing with someone who didn't even have elementary idea of the geopolitical situation and goals of rus*ia. Except for the things putin says about it, apparently. Please educate yourself on the subject I mentioned prior, Zeihan really is a good and easily understandable source on analysis over it if you want to check it out, even if he's very memeable.

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Russia is not justified in invading Ukraine. I have zero interest in entertaining that notion.

Keep licking boots.

[–] SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Huh? In the rare case you are not misreading my comments due to being embarrassed, you REALLY need to educate yourself on the subject.

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Russia did not need to invade Ukraine.

[–] SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ukraine is existential to rus*ia. The invasion was always going to happen, it was just a matter of when.

You'd know this if you'd knew even a little bit of geopolitics over the region. Like literally the tiniest amount of education would've saved you all these messages.

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The invasion was always going to happen

If you agree with Putin, yes.

Hold on - am I talking to Putin right now? Or just his personal aide?

Am I going to read about a Russian (that's how you spell it, not Rus*ia) social media secretary being disappeared after embarrassing themselves online?

[–] SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you agree with Putin, yes.

Who I agree with is irrelevant to reality. Sadly, he never asked my opinion on the invasion. I'm just stating the facts here, facts about reality which does seem like the sticking point with you.

And I don't spell rus*ia with a capital r, they don't deserve it.

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Who I agree with is irrelevant to reality

So, you do agree.

Also, it's not the capitalisation I'm disputing. And I don't believe your posturing.

[–] SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't agree with him. But I acknowledge the existence of his reasons. Very simple concept.

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You seem to think his reasons are valid. Stop dancing around that. You said he "had no choice but to invade". That means you think he was justified in invading.

He wasn't.

I also "acknowledge the existence of his reasons" just the same as I "acknowledge the existence" of the reasons a child steals candy. They wanted it. The reason exists, sure, but it doesn't make it a good or valid one.

[–] SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You seem to think his reasons are valid.

I dont

You said he “had no choice but to invade”.

Yep

That means you think he was justified in invading.

What? :D you literally just quoted me? :D Did I say “I think he had no choice but to invade and I agree with his reasons and the conclusions he came to” or “had no choice but to invade”.

Man, you truly are a tankie. Like a labgrown unfiltered nazi, sorry, tankie.

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You literally said he had no choice but to invade. That is, from you, a statement of believed fact. Why are you trying to backpedal, here? This is what you said. You even agree that I quoted you. How can you say "he had no choice but to invade", and now imply you never claimed to agree?

If you didn't agree, you'd have said "Putin claimed he had no choice". But you didn't. You said, flat out, he had no choice.

[–] SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You literally said he had no choice but to invade.

I still don't see the problem with the statement. He really didn't, rus*ian geopolitic doctrine insists on Ukraine being existential for their country, he had no choice but to invade.

He had no choice but to invade.

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Aw, poor little put upon Putin was so blocked in, he really had no choice but to brutally murder thousands of people for conquest. He had a gun against his head, don't you see!

Wtf is wrong with you? You don't think he could have just... NOT FUCKING INVADED?

Fucking Nazi.

[–] SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Not sure if you have challenges in reading or are just pretending to be retarded. Since you are a commie I actually can't tell if you can't read or pretend to be retarded for the lulz.

[–] SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Also bro I'm going to bed now, sleep tight tty tmr <3