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It sounds way less offensive to those who decry the original terminology's problematic roots but still keeps its meaning intact.

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[–] lud@lemm.ee 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

But POC are not the only ones that have been enslaved.

Pretty much all races and people have been enslaved in history.

Slave does not equal North American POC slave and the term in this context has absolutely nothing to do with them. The only time it refers specifically to them is when discussing North American history (and maybe current history due to the fact that USA still enslaves people in prison)

One might argue that the term is outdated because slaves are less common these days, but it has nothing to do with POC (or human slaves at all). But I won't argue that because the term is very easy to understand and thus not outdated.

[–] VulKendov@reddthat.com 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

North American, more specifically US slavery is very recent relative to the rest of history and was deeply ingrained into the economy of half the United States. War broke out to abolish it and the effects of it are still felt today.

Pretty much all races and people have been enslaved in history.

Don't deflect from the racism, discrimination, and prejudice that black Americans still experience to this day because of slavery.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

Maybe but the terms slave and master have nothing to do with that.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Don’t deflect from the racism, discrimination, and prejudice that black Americans still experience to this day because of slavery.

hate to be that guy but like, i feel like we should probably push for more POC to enter CS education fields, or like, improve the socioeconomic status of them, or like, crack down on discriminatory hiring practices, before we like. Start removing words because they feel moderately icky and make my skin crawl.

[–] colon_capital_D@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Why not both? We have the capacity to replace outdated/useless words and make the situation better for others. In fact, one does not prevent the other whatsoever

that's also true. But seeing as this is a discussion primarily about removing terms from common parlance, i think it's reasonable to focus on solely that aspect.

Ultimately, i'm just not really convinced that doing this is going to be ultimately productive at the end of the day. I might be wrong i suppose. But i think i'd need to see some supporting data first.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's a cool story, bro.

Completely irrelevant to the observation that descendents of slaves probably dont appreciate the terminology.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

probably dont appreciate the terminology.

Exactly