this post was submitted on 18 Aug 2024
809 points (97.9% liked)

Fediverse

28406 readers
1017 users here now

A community to talk about the Fediverse and all it's related services using ActivityPub (Mastodon, Lemmy, KBin, etc).

If you wanted to get help with moderating your own community then head over to !moderators@lemmy.world!

Rules

Learn more at these websites: Join The Fediverse Wiki, Fediverse.info, Wikipedia Page, The Federation Info (Stats), FediDB (Stats), Sub Rehab (Reddit Migration), Search Lemmy

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Probably better to post in the github issue rather than replying here.

https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/4967

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Again, please stop saying this removes protections for trans/gay.

What do you mean, again? You mean, for the first time? Because either you forgot you never said it or you're trying to gaslight. I can't read your mind. You don't control me, nor anyone else. And do you want me to stop bringing it up because it's hurting your argument? Should I throw in there too, there's countries were you can be put to death for being Atheist? Or speaking out against the government. Why is it important for you to out these people or not consider them, because it very much seems like it's one or the other. Why are you very much against increasing user security/privacy?

That information is already public

It's sort of public, with steps. It should be, not public.

The blocking scenario is what happens now, you just wouldn’t know they made a new account unless you’re actually able to see it...

Are you new to the internet? That's not how any of this would work. And I brought games in as an example, hoping to give an example you'd understand, clearly it didn't.

If votes don’t matter now why not change it to a form where they do matter

Why should they matter? Why do you very clearly want to see what and how everyone votes? Are we going to implement social scores? If you're upvote count isn't high enough and your ration isn't good enough,... hold on wasn't there a Black Mirror episode with this exact premise?

So, if someone downvotes something, you expect them to defend it... but a simple upvote is perfectly acceptable. Just no, that's never going to happen. Congrats you re-invented Facebook. Only upvotes and no counter feedback.

I'm genuinely lost as to why you're not in favor if increasing security for users. I mean, I've given some simple examples but there's honestly way more reasons why we don't need everyone able to track everyone, to be able to stalk/harass everyone. And "banning" someone will do nothing since anyone who knows that's a possibility, will just have a shadow account to monitor you.

[–] Cataphract@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago

You keep getting heated and bringing up other things that aren't equated trying to make some type of metaphor and it's not connecting for me so I apologize if you're getting frustrated. I don't see the social-score and "you have nothing to hide" being a valid argument that pertains to this discussion and just fear mongering distracting from a simple forum mechanic and a system of interacting with it.

I think the upvote/downvote system is abused by the general user by default when it comes to anonymity and many more are tempted as time progresses. When you're in a crowd you don't boo or cheer anonymously, it's an open public space where people see your actions. More accountability to the people interacting with a system seems like a positive to me.

In regards to the security/protection thing, others have already chimed in and hopefully you understand the data is already tracked and available to those who have a desire for it. My relevant parts where I talked about it before

You are not private or anonymous on here, if your actions on this platform put you in danger than do not continue to interact thinking it’s completely safe! These things can already be seen, this discussion is about making it show up in every UI by default instead.